Dagger, Choora and axe

Hombre · 17th May 2018, 06:37 PM

Thank you, Ian!
Maybe a silly question but is it possible to put a country on the dagger.... I mean Turkey, Iraq, Syria or Iran... Just curious and I want to learn....
I uploaded a picture of the sheath for the dagger....

So far I only have three daggers but hopefully there will be more.
Again thanks, Ian.
Also a big thank you to Sajen for being patient with me.

motan · 19th May 2018, 12:34 AM

Hi Hombre,

Nice lot you have there. I like the Ngulu sword. Don't know much about them, but it looks great and authentic.

I like the other group too. All typical and good pieces. As for the exact origin of the Kurdish dagger, it is hard to say. There are members of the forum who can tell you, but even in Artzi's site they are often sold as "Eastern Turkey of Northern Iraq".
If I had to guess, I would say Northern Iraq, because of the sleek shape of the hilt and because Turkish scabbards often have a horn, ivory of wooden tip.
How big is it? Standard size is 16-18 inch, but it looks much smaller than the upper one.

Kubur · 19th May 2018, 07:35 AM

Hi

Very nice daggers!
It's very difficult to say unless you have a specific blade or something on the hilt or the sheat... Kurdish...
Of course the one in the middle is from lower Irak (Baghdad-Bassorah)
so-called Marsh dagger...

Kubur

kronckew · 19th May 2018, 09:02 AM

A great many of the Kurdish jambiyah from Kurdistan* are wootz! look carefully, the grain structure may be noticeable without etching. Have a look thru the forum search on Kurdish and/or wootz...

*- The Kurdish inhabitants disagree with the current arbitrary borders set up mostly by the UK after ww2 which did not recognise ethnic reality & have resisted rule by these foreigners (Iran,Turkey,Iraq,Syria) ever since.

Hombre · 19th May 2018, 04:54 PM

Thank you so very much for your information and nice words.
I really appreciate that.

Motan, the lenght of the daggers:
Top around 50 cm
Middle around 40 cm
Bottom around 38 cm

Best,
Stefan

17th May 2018, 06:37 PM	#1
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Thank you, Ian! Maybe a silly question but is it possible to put a country on the dagger.... I mean Turkey, Iraq, Syria or Iran... Just curious and I want to learn.... I uploaded a picture of the sheath for the dagger.... So far I only have three daggers but hopefully there will be more. Again thanks, Ian. Also a big thank you to Sajen for being patient with me. Attached Images Last edited by Hombre; 17th May 2018 at 07:00 PM.

19th May 2018, 09:02 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	A great many of the Kurdish jambiyah from Kurdistan* are wootz! look carefully, the grain structure may be noticeable without etching. Have a look thru the forum search on Kurdish and/or wootz... *- The Kurdish inhabitants disagree with the current arbitrary borders set up mostly by the UK after ww2 which did not recognise ethnic reality & have resisted rule by these foreigners (Iran,Turkey,Iraq,Syria) ever since. Attached Images

19th May 2018, 12:34 AM	#2
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi Hombre, Nice lot you have there. I like the Ngulu sword. Don't know much about them, but it looks great and authentic. I like the other group too. All typical and good pieces. As for the exact origin of the Kurdish dagger, it is hard to say. There are members of the forum who can tell you, but even in Artzi's site they are often sold as "Eastern Turkey of Northern Iraq". If I had to guess, I would say Northern Iraq, because of the sleek shape of the hilt and because Turkish scabbards often have a horn, ivory of wooden tip. How big is it? Standard size is 16-18 inch, but it looks much smaller than the upper one.

19th May 2018, 07:35 AM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Very nice daggers! It's very difficult to say unless you have a specific blade or something on the hilt or the sheat... Kurdish... Of course the one in the middle is from lower Irak (Baghdad-Bassorah) so-called Marsh dagger... Kubur

19th May 2018, 04:54 PM	#5
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Thank you so very much for your information and nice words. I really appreciate that. Motan, the lenght of the daggers: Top around 50 cm Middle around 40 cm Bottom around 38 cm Best, Stefan