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Old 21st April 2018, 10:56 AM   #1
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Alan, thank you!
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Thank you Gustav for your analysis of Paul's blade and thank you Alan for that explanation of forging. This has indeed been very interesting. While i do understand that threads do tend to develop tracks and directions of their own i would like to encourage that we now get back to the Anthony's original intention for this thread. Perhaps, Gustav, do you have some opinion of the origin of Paul's naga form blade and any ideas if it is a common form for that area or not?
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Old 21st April 2018, 11:17 PM   #3
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David, it's quite simple. Although my interest (at the moment) differ from Alan's in that I very much like some Sumatran and Peninsular Keris forms, for Nogo blades I am only into something, of which this one is a perfect example - Central Javanese, second part of 17th cent., high point of Kinatah work:

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/p...c+armor/515178

Later Nogo blade forms, even Javanese ones, are not my cup of tee.
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Old 21st April 2018, 11:43 PM   #4
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Regarding Paul's blade, I am afraid I cannot have an opinion, except, that the outline of Gonjo, widening towards Buntut, looks Bugis inspired. The blade is Javanese or is copying Javanese/Balinese motifs in a degree, which would be a little unusual for Nogo blades of this quality from outside of Java and Bali - there appears degenerative motif of Bintulu on Gandhik, the architectural element under Bintulu on Gonjo, the tree motif on Bawang Sebungkul. I have not seen any blade with Nogo Anom (?) outside of Java until now.
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Old 22nd April 2018, 01:57 AM   #5
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David, it's quite simple. Although my interest (at the moment) differ from Alan's in that I very much like some Sumatran and Peninsular Keris forms, for Nogo blades I am only into something, of which this one is a perfect example - Central Javanese, second part of 17th cent., high point of Kinatah work:

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/p...c+armor/515178

Later Nogo blade forms, even Javanese ones, are not my cup of tee.
Thanks for that most beautiful example Gustav. I'm posting it here for more immediate access. While i can certainly see why this very specific time and style has caught your fancy i am personally open to more pedestrian forms of nogo blades, especially since i don't imagine that i would ever be able to acquire, or for that matter, even get to hold such a lovely example as this.
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Old 22nd April 2018, 02:30 AM   #6
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Dear collectors,

with reference to the pictures in post 12 (malela-like keris nagas), has anyone seen the absence of scales on a naga tail, or gradual disappearance of scales along the tail, in keris nagas of other regions?
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Old 22nd April 2018, 06:01 PM   #7
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Dear collectors,

with reference to the pictures in post 12 (malela-like keris nagas), has anyone seen the absence of scales on a naga tail, or gradual disappearance of scales along the tail, in keris nagas of other regions?
The short answer to this Alexis is yes.
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