Need help to ID sword.

rumpel9 · 12th April 2018, 07:50 PM

Hello, folks.
Few days ago I have bought the sword from Malay Archipelago. This sword is the riddle for me. I can not find similar in any book.
So here is my questions:
1. The name of the sword?
2. The type (parang, pedang, golok)?
3. Origin, wich people it belongs?

Sajen · 12th April 2018, 09:54 PM

Hello Rumpel9,

I think it's a Sunda pedang, very old, first half 19th century, maybe older. Sadly seems a piece wood missing at the handle and also the ferrule. Scabbard is a recent replacement.

Regards,
Detlef

Treeslicer · 12th April 2018, 10:16 PM

Very nice.

rumpel9 · 13th April 2018, 11:06 AM

Hallo, Detlef.
Thank you for the info. Do you know has this pedang its own name?
Regsrds, Yury.

Gustav · 13th April 2018, 11:19 AM

Isn't it a metal lamella rather then missing piece of wood?
Of course it's possible only if a metal ferrule is there.

rumpel9 · 13th April 2018, 07:22 PM

To say the truth, I didnt hold this pedang in my hands yet. I will pick it up at the end of next week. If it is interesting I will make and post more detailed pics.

ACP · 13th April 2018, 09:32 PM

I agree with Mr. Detlef, it sure looks like a sunda pedang.

But there appears to be no missing piece of wood. It just has a metal frame to exactly protect the wooden ferrule from chipping. These metal frames came about during the 19th to mid 20th century. Seems to be an afterthought after a lot of old wooden handles started to get broken inadvertently during handling.

Just my humble opinion

Sajen · 13th April 2018, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Isn't it a metal lamella rather then missing piece of wood?
Of course it's possible only if a metal ferrule is there.

Yes, you are correct!

My eyes are not really good anymore.

Sajen · 13th April 2018, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumpel9

Thank you for the info. Do you know has this pedang its own name?

Hi Jury,
when I am correct that it is Sundanese Amuk Murugul would be the one who could answer your question. But I would be happy with pedang!

Regards,
Detlef

Amuk Murugul · 13th April 2018, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Jury,
when I am correct that it is Sundanese Amuk Murugul would be the one who could answer your question. But I would be happy with pedang!

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef,

Thanks for the intro.

Hullo Yuri,
To me, it appears to be a Pedang Tewek Sampana (SoendaGaloeh).
Hilt seems to be a thinly-disguised clump of fern-croziers, thus it is an Eloek Pakoe variant.(I say 'thinly-disguised' because overall, it is made to look like a Djawa planar hilt, suggesting the style was adopted after 1579).
Have a look at the end of the metal strip. Does it look broken? If not, then it is normal. It was put there as is as a strengthener.

Best,

rumpel9 · 14th April 2018, 01:21 PM

Detlef, Amuk Murugul thank you for replies.

Sajen · 14th April 2018, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumpel9

Detlef, Amuk Murugul thank you for replies.

You're welcome!

12th April 2018, 07:50 PM	#1
rumpel9 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 68	Need help to ID sword. Hello, folks. Few days ago I have bought the sword from Malay Archipelago. This sword is the riddle for me. I can not find similar in any book. So here is my questions: 1. The name of the sword? 2. The type (parang, pedang, golok)? 3. Origin, wich people it belongs? Attached Images

13th April 2018, 11:19 AM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,262	Isn't it a metal lamella rather then missing piece of wood? Of course it's possible only if a metal ferrule is there. Attached Images

12th April 2018, 09:54 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,126	Hello Rumpel9, I think it's a Sunda pedang, very old, first half 19th century, maybe older. Sadly seems a piece wood missing at the handle and also the ferrule. Scabbard is a recent replacement. Regards, Detlef

12th April 2018, 10:16 PM	#3
Treeslicer Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 65	Very nice.

13th April 2018, 11:06 AM	#4
rumpel9 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 68	Hallo, Detlef. Thank you for the info. Do you know has this pedang its own name? Regsrds, Yury.

13th April 2018, 07:22 PM	#6
rumpel9 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 68	To say the truth, I didnt hold this pedang in my hands yet. I will pick it up at the end of next week. If it is interesting I will make and post more detailed pics.

13th April 2018, 09:32 PM	#7
ACP Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Western Visayas Philippines Posts: 16	I agree with Mr. Detlef, it sure looks like a sunda pedang. But there appears to be no missing piece of wood. It just has a metal frame to exactly protect the wooden ferrule from chipping. These metal frames came about during the 19th to mid 20th century. Seems to be an afterthought after a lot of old wooden handles started to get broken inadvertently during handling. Just my humble opinion

14th April 2018, 01:21 PM	#11
rumpel9 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 68	Detlef, Amuk Murugul thank you for replies.