Ancient Keris Cengkrong for comment

David · 19th March 2018, 05:29 PM

Well, if were were to accept this last diagram as fact Arjuna i suppose that your blade would best be described as Cundrik Pandawa since it is both wavy and has no separate gonjo as the other two example do.
Though i am still suspicious of this blade in regards to my question i first made about it. This appears to a a blade that was has been reformed. The front edge near the base looks like it has been sheared off, leaving a flat surface. Can we see some sharper photos of this area of the blade? Can we see the way it fits into the sheath from an above view. Should we expect a Javanese blade form purported to possibly be from a royal family to carry a Madurese hilt form? I suspect this could possibly be a composite piece.

Arjuna · 19th March 2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Well, if were were to accept this last diagram as fact Arjuna i suppose that your blade would best be described as Cundrik Pandawa since it is both wavy and has no separate gonjo as the other two example do.
Though i am still suspicious of this blade in regards to my question i first made about it. This appears to a a blade that was has been reformed. The front edge near the base looks like it has been sheared off, leaving a flat surface. Can we see some sharper photos of this area of the blade? Can we see the way it fits into the sheath from an above view. Should we expect a Javanese blade form purported to possibly be from a royal family to carry a Madurese hilt form? I suspect this could possibly be a composite piece.

I passed it on to my indonesian friend who desperately wanted it so I can make no more pictures. The Warangka was made for this keris with a fitting opening.

Regards

Jean · 19th March 2018, 06:21 PM

Another old cengkrong or cundrik blade with 5 luk and rather similar to Arjuna's specimen.
Regards

Athanase · 19th March 2018, 06:48 PM

I have an almost similar blade, but the hilt and scabbard are recent.

David · 19th March 2018, 08:41 PM

So no one wants to address my question about the squared-off nature of the "gandik" area of this blade?

19th March 2018, 06:21 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Another old cengkrong or cundrik blade with 5 luk and rather similar to Arjuna's specimen. Regards Attached Images

19th March 2018, 06:48 PM	#4
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 417	I have an almost similar blade, but the hilt and scabbard are recent. Attached Images

19th March 2018, 05:29 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well, if were were to accept this last diagram as fact Arjuna i suppose that your blade would best be described as Cundrik Pandawa since it is both wavy and has no separate gonjo as the other two example do. Though i am still suspicious of this blade in regards to my question i first made about it. This appears to a a blade that was has been reformed. The front edge near the base looks like it has been sheared off, leaving a flat surface. Can we see some sharper photos of this area of the blade? Can we see the way it fits into the sheath from an above view. Should we expect a Javanese blade form purported to possibly be from a royal family to carry a Madurese hilt form? I suspect this could possibly be a composite piece.

19th March 2018, 08:41 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	So no one wants to address my question about the squared-off nature of the "gandik" area of this blade?