Any idea of what I just purchased

Norman McCormick · 15th March 2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmaddock

Hi
Yes Fernando it looks as if the sword is in a scabard, I decided not to mention this to see if others taught the same.

Dyed Ivory was that a well known adaptation?

Ken

Hi Ken,
It does look like there are remnants of a scabbard but it is difficult to be sure. Dyed ivory is indeed a well known form of embellishment but not common.
Regards,
Norman.

M ELEY · 16th March 2018, 04:42 AM

Just repeating and confirming what others have already said...18th century hanger, possibly English, French or American, dyed green ivory was in vogue mid/late 18th c., your piece appears to be missing its cross-guard and pommel cap, but need better pics. And yes, it appears to be stuck in its scabbard. Not an uncommon conundrum, unfortunately. Most of these were hunting pieces, but they were also popular with infantry and naval officers.
mark

kronckew · 16th March 2018, 08:07 PM

See also George Washington's swords here on the forum, specifically the 'fishkill' sword, a green gripped cuttoe/hanger/hunting sword he favoured.

Kmaddock · 16th March 2018, 09:13 PM

Thanks for finding the link to George Washington’s sword I can see the similarities alright
I will have swords by Tuesday or Wednesday
It’s the St Patrick’s day festival here in Ireland so things slow down.

Looking forward to seeing what I have now and I will share pictures next week
Happy St Patrick’s day and if there is any Irish in you at all raise a glass over the weekend!!!
Slainte (cheers is Gaelic)
Ken

Hotspur · 18th March 2018, 01:46 AM

If that is the tang of the blade sticking way out, it may be a composite. It also seems to be missing a guard of any type.

Cheers

GC

Ian · 18th March 2018, 06:59 AM

Hi Ken:

I tried enhancing the pictures you posted, and the handle is a bit more visible in one of them.

Ian.

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kronckew · 18th March 2018, 09:33 AM

That tang extension may have been for a missing pommel, possibly a lion or an eagle shape, as well as for holding the missing guard piece(s). the green grip may be a bit further forward that it was when the guard piece was there.

18th March 2018, 06:59 AM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Hi Ken: I tried enhancing the pictures you posted, and the handle is a bit more visible in one of them. Ian. . Attached Images

16th March 2018, 04:42 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Just repeating and confirming what others have already said...18th century hanger, possibly English, French or American, dyed green ivory was in vogue mid/late 18th c., your piece appears to be missing its cross-guard and pommel cap, but need better pics. And yes, it appears to be stuck in its scabbard. Not an uncommon conundrum, unfortunately. Most of these were hunting pieces, but they were also popular with infantry and naval officers. mark

16th March 2018, 08:07 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	See also George Washington's swords here on the forum, specifically the 'fishkill' sword, a green gripped cuttoe/hanger/hunting sword he favoured.

16th March 2018, 09:13 PM	#4
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Thanks for finding the link to George Washington’s sword I can see the similarities alright I will have swords by Tuesday or Wednesday It’s the St Patrick’s day festival here in Ireland so things slow down. Looking forward to seeing what I have now and I will share pictures next week Happy St Patrick’s day and if there is any Irish in you at all raise a glass over the weekend!!! Slainte (cheers is Gaelic) Ken

18th March 2018, 01:46 AM	#5
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 508	If that is the tang of the blade sticking way out, it may be a composite. It also seems to be missing a guard of any type. Cheers GC

18th March 2018, 09:33 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	That tang extension may have been for a missing pommel, possibly a lion or an eagle shape, as well as for holding the missing guard piece(s). the green grip may be a bit further forward that it was when the guard piece was there.