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kai · 12th March 2018, 08:00 PM

Hello Detlef,

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by a blade length from 25 cm it is for sure a Lopah Petawaran, a very nice piece and I have to withdraw my previous comment that there is something missing at the handle, it don't look like this but there is still the possibility that there was once a longer extention attached at the end from the handle.

Nah, not a LP!

You could argue that there is a kind of continuum between typical LPs (blade with bolster), variant LPs (simple blade without bolster), knifes with simple blades (and more acute tips), and small kalasan (with typical taka blades and sigmoid cutting edge). LPs usually have blade tips that are steeply angled towards the back (aka tanto tip style); however, old, worn LP blades often exhibit more acute knife-like tips and, thus, blurring the distinction.

However, looking at the whole evidence including blade, hilt, and scabbard, I feel confident that this is not a ceremonial LP (variant)...

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The handle isn't from wood IMVHO, look like horn or akar bahar, how is the feel in hand, warm or colder?

Horn is a likely possibility. From the carving, I don't see any hints for AB though.

Regards,
Kai

DaveF · 13th March 2018, 03:22 AM

Yes, the handle is horn

Thank you both for putting me straight on that. Also, there are faint darker rings on the scabbard supporting your suggestion of an earlier rattan binding, Kai.

Regards,

Dave

DaveF · 13th March 2018, 09:50 PM

And thanks again, Detlef and Kai, for sharing your knowledge.

ACP · 28th March 2018, 06:36 PM

IMHO sir, this is a rencong variant. The Rencong dagger is used by the Acehnese as well as to the Sumatrans. Its shape is said to symbolize the Arab letter of the invocation “Bismillaah”. It is therefore believed to have a mystic power.

If you can send more pictures I might be able to determine what variant it is

DaveF · 2nd April 2018, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ACP

IMHO sir, this is a rencong variant. The Rencong dagger is used by the Acehnese as well as to the Sumatrans. Its shape is said to symbolize the Arab letter of the invocation “Bismillaah”. It is therefore believed to have a mystic power.

If you can send more pictures I might be able to determine what variant it is

With apologies for the delay in my reply, here are some more photos. I hope you find them useful for ID purposes:

13th March 2018, 03:22 AM	#2
DaveF Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 52	Yes, the handle is horn Thank you both for putting me straight on that. Also, there are faint darker rings on the scabbard supporting your suggestion of an earlier rattan binding, Kai. Regards, Dave

13th March 2018, 09:50 PM	#3
DaveF Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 52	And thanks again, Detlef and Kai, for sharing your knowledge.

28th March 2018, 06:36 PM	#4
ACP Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Western Visayas Philippines Posts: 16	IMHO sir, this is a rencong variant. The Rencong dagger is used by the Acehnese as well as to the Sumatrans. Its shape is said to symbolize the Arab letter of the invocation “Bismillaah”. It is therefore believed to have a mystic power. If you can send more pictures I might be able to determine what variant it is