Unusual gunpowder flask

Kmaddock · 3rd February 2018, 02:53 PM

I think you all are correct that it is a dubious mark to simulate a hallmark.
As for the mechanism has anyone seen examples of a similar set up before
Thanks for the interest.
Ken

fernando · 3rd February 2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmaddock

...As for the mechanism has anyone seen examples of a similar set up before ...

Not me. A bizarre system; a unique one ? for a determined purpose ?

Pukka Bundook · 4th February 2018, 03:53 AM

As stated above, this type of top was a safety device, as occasionally 'normal_flasks would blow up on charging a barrel containing a spark.
Some tops looked like the regular, but were warranted fireproof.
This type of top appears to have been used more in France than the UK,.
Anyone with the Powder Flask Book will see many variations.
Sorry though, I don't own the book!

It's a nice one to have, and much scarcer than the usual types.

Mel H · 4th February 2018, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

As stated above, this type of top was a safety device, as occasionally 'normal_flasks would blow up on charging a barrel containing a spark.
Some tops looked like the regular, but were warranted fireproof.
This type of top appears to have been used more in France than the UK,.
Anyone with the Powder Flask Book will see many variations.
Sorry though, I don't own the book!

It's a nice one to have, and much scarcer than the usual types.

I don't have the best known book by Riling but similar flasks appear the book by Martin Rywell but don't get much of a mention in the script, I've looked in a James Dixon of Sheffield catalogue from 1883 and it has clear drawing of this type of dispenser fitted to different styled bodies, one is listed as model No.5054, having a patent top.

Additionally with reference to the markings.
Quote From Martin Rywell.
Dixon & Sons. James Dixon was a firm founded in 1804, their mark was, Dixon, until 1806. From 1806 till 1830 their mark was a D and S separated by a rose.

Pukka Bundook · 4th February 2018, 03:43 PM

IT looks like you may well have cracked it, Mel!

I did not know that Dixon marked flasks in this manner.

I'm from Ormesby area. I see you too are from the NE.
Can I ask Roughly where?

Mel H · 4th February 2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

IT looks like you may well have cracked it, Mel!

I did not know that Dixon marked flasks in this manner.

I'm from Ormesby area. I see you too are from the NE.
Can I ask Roughly where?

Hi there, I'm not far away, in Bishop Auckland.

Kmaddock · 4th February 2018, 08:12 PM

Thanks all for the information
Looks like I have picked up a rare beast, came with 5 leather shot dispensers and 3 other powder dispensers
All came in an RIC Barack’s box with a mixture of other items, handcuffs baton
The barrels off A double barrel percussion gun etc
Looks like a lot of maybe siezed ordinance and related items, all I was after was the handcuffs baton and pouch so nice to get a bonus item. The metal on the bottom of the flask is rotten through unfortunately
Cheers
Ken

3rd February 2018, 02:53 PM	#1
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	I think you all are correct that it is a dubious mark to simulate a hallmark. As for the mechanism has anyone seen examples of a similar set up before Thanks for the interest. Ken

4th February 2018, 03:53 AM	#3
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	As stated above, this type of top was a safety device, as occasionally 'normal_flasks would blow up on charging a barrel containing a spark. Some tops looked like the regular, but were warranted fireproof. This type of top appears to have been used more in France than the UK,. Anyone with the Powder Flask Book will see many variations. Sorry though, I don't own the book! It's a nice one to have, and much scarcer than the usual types.

4th February 2018, 03:43 PM	#5
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	IT looks like you may well have cracked it, Mel! I did not know that Dixon marked flasks in this manner. I'm from Ormesby area. I see you too are from the NE. Can I ask Roughly where?

4th February 2018, 08:12 PM	#7
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Thanks all for the information Looks like I have picked up a rare beast, came with 5 leather shot dispensers and 3 other powder dispensers All came in an RIC Barack’s box with a mixture of other items, handcuffs baton The barrels off A double barrel percussion gun etc Looks like a lot of maybe siezed ordinance and related items, all I was after was the handcuffs baton and pouch so nice to get a bonus item. The metal on the bottom of the flask is rotten through unfortunately Cheers Ken