Another Afghan Jezail?

Fernando K · 27th January 2018, 12:28 PM

Hello

Just to say that the lock is European. Here I upload a lock of a rifle, a copy of the Enfield 1853, produced by English or Belgian armourers, and sold to the contenders in the American War of Secession, in this case to the southern states. As you can see, it has the word TOWER, the date, 1863, but placed inversely and a crown, but without figures of the reigning monarch. It also does not have the "wide arrow", which would denote property of the crown

Victrix · 27th January 2018, 05:29 PM

Bingo! Spot on, Fernando K. It’s a copy of the Pattern Enfield 1853 which was the AK47 of the Victorian era and produced in many locations around the world. It was the second most used rifle in the US Civil War after Springfield. I attach a picture of an Enfield used in the US CW. They imported 900,000 Enfield rifles! You clearly recognize the lock and the stock design, although mine is obviously for the oriental market with that kind of butt and octagonal rifled barrel and no strap fasteners. No wonder I thought it looked European. Now I like it even more!

. Thanks Fernando K!

kahnjar1 · 27th January 2018, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

Just to say that the lock is European. Here I upload a lock of a rifle, a copy of the Enfield 1853, produced by English or Belgian armourers, and sold to the contenders in the American War of Secession, in this case to the southern states. As you can see, it has the word TOWER, the date, 1863, but placed inversely and a crown, but without figures of the reigning monarch. It also does not have the "wide arrow", which would denote property of the crown

Thank you Fernando K for posting the pic of the "1863" lock. This supports my comment exactly, that the letters "TOWER" are out of line on the lock on the Victrix Jezail. Compare the 2 pics and you will see what I mean.
By the way the letters L A Co on the other lock likely stand for London Armoury Company.
Stu

Fernando K · 27th January 2018, 09:01 PM

hello, Kanhjar1

the fact that the punch with the word TOWER a little inclined (since it was put to hand) is not enough to deny the nationality of the lock. Note the elaboration of the punch with the crown, the sherif of the letters and the thickening of the numbers, where it corresponds, the profile of the plate and the perfection of the hammer.

Affectionately. Fernando K

Victrix · 27th January 2018, 10:07 PM

Stu, you are absolutely right regarding the L A Co. It’s for London Armoury Company which is still operating. Interesting to note the V R initials under the crown on the L A Co rifle.

Also interesting to see that the L A Co rifle doesn’t have a border line going all around the lock plate.

Victrix · 26th February 2018, 06:59 PM

I found this charming article about restoration work on an old rifle made in Nepal:

http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...0steps_200912/

27th January 2018, 12:28 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello Just to say that the lock is European. Here I upload a lock of a rifle, a copy of the Enfield 1853, produced by English or Belgian armourers, and sold to the contenders in the American War of Secession, in this case to the southern states. As you can see, it has the word TOWER, the date, 1863, but placed inversely and a crown, but without figures of the reigning monarch. It also does not have the "wide arrow", which would denote property of the crown Attached Images

27th January 2018, 05:29 PM	#2
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	Bingo! Spot on, Fernando K. It’s a copy of the Pattern Enfield 1853 which was the AK47 of the Victorian era and produced in many locations around the world. It was the second most used rifle in the US Civil War after Springfield. I attach a picture of an Enfield used in the US CW. They imported 900,000 Enfield rifles! You clearly recognize the lock and the stock design, although mine is obviously for the oriental market with that kind of butt and octagonal rifled barrel and no strap fasteners. No wonder I thought it looked European. Now I like it even more! . Thanks Fernando K! Attached Images

27th January 2018, 10:07 PM	#5
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	Stu, you are absolutely right regarding the L A Co. It’s for London Armoury Company which is still operating. Interesting to note the V R initials under the crown on the L A Co rifle. Also interesting to see that the L A Co rifle doesn’t have a border line going all around the lock plate. Last edited by Victrix; 27th January 2018 at 10:25 PM.

27th January 2018, 09:01 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	hello, Kanhjar1 the fact that the punch with the word TOWER a little inclined (since it was put to hand) is not enough to deny the nationality of the lock. Note the elaboration of the punch with the crown, the sherif of the letters and the thickening of the numbers, where it corresponds, the profile of the plate and the perfection of the hammer. Affectionately. Fernando K

26th February 2018, 06:59 PM	#6
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	I found this charming article about restoration work on an old rifle made in Nepal: http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...0steps_200912/