Balkan/Ottoman flintlock pistol for ID and comment

OsobistGB · 21st January 2018, 06:45 PM

Hi Rick,
Thank you for the comprehensive answer.Unfortunately, I lack knowledge of Balkan weapons.I am trying to find literature for the Balkan weapons and am extremely grateful if you share to which authors have written on the subject.
Thanks once again!

Richard G · 22nd January 2018, 03:05 PM

Hello Osobist and Rickystl,
Now, I'm probably going to make a fool of myself, (not for the first time,I hear you say), but have you released or operated the lock yet?
The reason I ask is that it is not apparent to me what is actually keeping the cock cocked. Presumably there is another sear, above the mainspring, which we cannot see in the photograph, in which case what is the sear we can see for?
Genuinely interested.
Regards
Richard

corrado26 · 22nd January 2018, 04:17 PM

You cannot see the two sears? The arrows show where they are.

A very good opus about the firearms in use in the Balkans is the book of Robert Elgood, The Arms of Greece and her Balkan Neighbors in the Ottoman Period.
corrado26

Kubur · 22nd January 2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OsobistGB

Hi Rick,
Thank you for the comprehensive answer.Unfortunately, I lack knowledge of Balkan weapons.I am trying to find literature for the Balkan weapons and am extremely grateful if you share to which authors have written on the subject.
Thanks once again!

I confirm, book of Robert Elgood, The Arms of Greece and her Balkan Neighbors in the Ottoman Period.
Just buy it! You will find plenty of yours.

Fernando K · 22nd January 2018, 06:17 PM

Hello

There is an error in post number 5. Number 1 is the sear of half cock, but the firing sear is not visible, it is covered by the vision of the real spring. The number 2 indicates the visible end of the real spring.

Affectionately. Fernando K

rickystl · 28th January 2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

There is an error in post number 5. Number 1 is the sear of half cock, but the firing sear is not visible, it is covered by the vision of the real spring. The number 2 indicates the visible end of the real spring.

Affectionately. Fernando K

Fernando K is correct. The full cock sear is located just above the half cock sear and is flat versus round. It's difficult to photograph since it's usually covered up by the mainspring.

Rick

rickystl · 28th January 2018, 02:54 PM

Hi Rajesh.

That is indeed a nice rat-tail pistol. Also with the one piece muzzle band.
I notice your pistol is also in the full-cock position. Would also recommend you release the hammer as long term in this position will weaken the mainspring.
Again, nice example that appears in good condition.

Rick

rickystl · 28th January 2018, 02:57 PM

For those interested, here are some clean photos of this lock.

Rick

Kubur · 28th January 2018, 04:29 PM

Nice pistols! and nice lock Rick!

I would like to add that most of these locks were engraved
with clouds and wind, symbols that you can find on some blades too...

22nd January 2018, 04:17 PM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	You cannot see the two sears? The arrows show where they are. A very good opus about the firearms in use in the Balkans is the book of Robert Elgood, The Arms of Greece and her Balkan Neighbors in the Ottoman Period. corrado26 Attached Images

28th January 2018, 02:57 PM	#8
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	For those interested, here are some clean photos of this lock. Rick Attached Images

28th January 2018, 04:29 PM	#9
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Nice pistols! and nice lock Rick! I would like to add that most of these locks were engraved with clouds and wind, symbols that you can find on some blades too... Attached Images

21st January 2018, 06:45 PM	#1
OsobistGB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 95	Hi Rick, Thank you for the comprehensive answer.Unfortunately, I lack knowledge of Balkan weapons.I am trying to find literature for the Balkan weapons and am extremely grateful if you share to which authors have written on the subject. Thanks once again!

22nd January 2018, 03:05 PM	#2
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 409	Hello Osobist and Rickystl, Now, I'm probably going to make a fool of myself, (not for the first time,I hear you say), but have you released or operated the lock yet? The reason I ask is that it is not apparent to me what is actually keeping the cock cocked. Presumably there is another sear, above the mainspring, which we cannot see in the photograph, in which case what is the sear we can see for? Genuinely interested. Regards Richard

22nd January 2018, 06:17 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello There is an error in post number 5. Number 1 is the sear of half cock, but the firing sear is not visible, it is covered by the vision of the real spring. The number 2 indicates the visible end of the real spring. Affectionately. Fernando K

28th January 2018, 02:54 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	Hi Rajesh. That is indeed a nice rat-tail pistol. Also with the one piece muzzle band. I notice your pistol is also in the full-cock position. Would also recommend you release the hammer as long term in this position will weaken the mainspring. Again, nice example that appears in good condition. Rick