A 19th century naval dirk from Eastern Europe??

Valjhun · 20th March 2006, 05:02 PM

It remainds me, especially the scabbard, to the British East India Co. officer sword... Nice dagger! I'd love to have it!

Tim Simmons · 23rd March 2006, 08:39 PM

This knife has just finished on ebay, I did not bid, no one else did either, could have got it for two portions. I do not think it is that old and in my opinion the one in question is not old. I think you can see the N.Indian/Pakistan/Afghan origin in both knives. This is almost identical to to knife with the spit scabbard I did not buy.

Tim Simmons · 23rd March 2006, 08:50 PM

However I have bought this N.Indian/Nepalese? knife. I have seen these before but always too expensive for my taste but this one was cheap. Am I right thinking of Nepal. These last two posts could be unofficial knives from ww2. Tim

spiral · 23rd March 2006, 08:54 PM

I think you will find thats the first picture is standard Indian tourist junk from Dehra dun the home of lion headed, chrome plated kukris, Tim.

The sword looks much higher quality to my eye & I cant personaly see any design simmalaritys, but perhaps the man with the sword to hand can?

The second picture is a Nepali knife & could possibly be WW2 era I would say.

Congratulations on that one.

Spiral

Tim Simmons · 23rd March 2006, 09:02 PM

Thank you, another stab in the dark, sometimes it works. About the other knife look at the same handle forms I cannot see a lot of qualitative difference myself but this is not an area I am really familiar with. Tim

spiral · 23rd March 2006, 09:58 PM

I can see what you mean Tim but I think there a lot more differences than similaritys myself.

Spiral

not2sharp · 6th April 2006, 02:30 PM

This is an early 19th century Georgian naval dirk. Note the similarities with the knife at the top of this thread. I believe our knife is an example of this type of dirk.

n2s

Tim Simmons · 6th April 2006, 04:39 PM

This dirk does look like it did belong to a naval officer. I am not sure about the first one, it does not smack of officer stuff. If you look at the guard on the first example and the Indian? knife there is similarity too. It might just be a naval fighting knife maybe that is why the scabbard lacks that 19th cent officer quality.

23rd March 2006, 08:39 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	This knife has just finished on ebay, I did not bid, no one else did either, could have got it for two portions. I do not think it is that old and in my opinion the one in question is not old. I think you can see the N.Indian/Pakistan/Afghan origin in both knives. This is almost identical to to knife with the spit scabbard I did not buy. Attached Images

23rd March 2006, 08:50 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	However I have bought this N.Indian/Nepalese? knife. I have seen these before but always too expensive for my taste but this one was cheap. Am I right thinking of Nepal. These last two posts could be unofficial knives from ww2. Tim Attached Images

20th March 2006, 05:02 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	It remainds me, especially the scabbard, to the British East India Co. officer sword... Nice dagger! I'd love to have it!

23rd March 2006, 08:54 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I think you will find thats the first picture is standard Indian tourist junk from Dehra dun the home of lion headed, chrome plated kukris, Tim. The sword looks much higher quality to my eye & I cant personaly see any design simmalaritys, but perhaps the man with the sword to hand can? The second picture is a Nepali knife & could possibly be WW2 era I would say. Congratulations on that one. Spiral

23rd March 2006, 09:02 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Thank you, another stab in the dark, sometimes it works. About the other knife look at the same handle forms I cannot see a lot of qualitative difference myself but this is not an area I am really familiar with. Tim

23rd March 2006, 09:58 PM	#6
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I can see what you mean Tim but I think there a lot more differences than similaritys myself. Spiral

6th April 2006, 02:30 PM	#7
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	This is an early 19th century Georgian naval dirk. Note the similarities with the knife at the top of this thread. I believe our knife is an example of this type of dirk. n2s

6th April 2006, 04:39 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	This dirk does look like it did belong to a naval officer. I am not sure about the first one, it does not smack of officer stuff. If you look at the guard on the first example and the Indian? knife there is similarity too. It might just be a naval fighting knife maybe that is why the scabbard lacks that 19th cent officer quality.