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Old 5th October 2017, 12:53 PM   #1
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I don't think we should dismiss Grutte Pier's sword as a late replica without positive evidence - which would need detailed examination in the 'flesh'.
There exist several very large Bearing or Ceremonial swords like this, some even bigger, with reasonable history. This sword is 213cm long but the 15th century Corvinus sword in Istanbul is 270cm long (the biggest that I know), Dresden has a 'Thing' (parliament) sword at 265.7cm, Edinburgh has the 'Sempill' sword, carried before Mary, Queen of Scots, at the battle of Langside, at 256cm, not to mention the two in the Royal Armouries posted by Reventlov, at 231 and 226.5cm respectively. There are lots more very big swords intended purely for ceremony not for combat, dating back to the 14th century.
Reventlov: could you tell us where the other swords are which you posted, apart from the 2 R.A. ones, especially the one with the very bent, or upside down, quillons. Thank you to all, esp. Bramiam for bringing this sword to our attention.
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Old 5th October 2017, 02:08 PM   #2
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The photos did not appear in the order I intended them, to match my comments...

The first sword with the bent quillons is the one in the Rijksmuseum, then the second (with closeups) is from the Higgins, and is now in the Worcester art museum that retained some of the former collection.
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Old 5th October 2017, 06:28 PM   #3
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Thanks, Reventlov.
I forgot to say that I have seen a blade mark very similar to that on G.P.D.'s sword on 2-hander blades made in S.Germany, probably Passau. My basic feeling is that Grutte Pier's sword is early 15th century.
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