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Old 18th September 2017, 05:58 PM   #1
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LOL! Not a chance of dropping off in your entries Nando!
As always I very much appreciate your 'unquandriment' (not sure that's a word ) and I love to learn....so your patient explanations are a win, win deal to me.

I did not know about the croaking thing (I think of frogs) but that does well describe the loud sounds these often huge birds make. I admit I rather liked the crow/raven analogy, and especially presently being in the Native American frame of mind with their uses of it.

Actually in another digression, the term corvo always in a phonetic sense brings to mind the well known tequila (ta kill ya, in Southern Calif. beach party parlance some years back) Jose Cuervo, which often had more of an octane rating than a proof number.
Whether margaritas or shots, that stuff would throw ya for a loop (curve?)

While tedious at times, sometimes the dynamics and color of these linguistic anomalies really do add some dimension to these weapon terms.
Around here....always learning ....that's a good thing.
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Old 18th September 2017, 07:30 PM   #2
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I keep telling the dudes that surround me that, if it weren't for this hobby, i wouldn't have acquired an infinitesimal slice of the general culture i have gathered... linguistics included .
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Old 18th September 2017, 07:58 PM   #3
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Actually in another digression, the term corvo always in a phonetic sense brings to mind the well known tequila (ta kill ya, in Southern Calif. beach party parlance some years back) Jose Cuervo, which often had more of an octane rating than a proof number.
Whether margaritas or shots, that stuff would throw ya for a loop (curve?)

While tedious at times, sometimes the dynamics and color of these linguistic anomalies really do add some dimension to these weapon terms.
Around here....always learning ....that's a good thing.
my early exposure to spanish was of course flavoured by the colonial version spoken south of the border, in my years in texas and california. also flavoured by liberal internal applications of the above mentioned tequilla (in margharitas). what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

surprise! when i got to valencia on a summer training cruise, they all lithp their S's! apparently, one of the royals way back had a lisp, so rather than embarrass him and lose their heads, everyone around him always lisped too. it became fashionable, and the custom perpetuates to this day, but never made it to the new world. so for a few days i was called by the local female wildlife as 'that crazy mexican'. the portugese also seems to have resisted the lisp.
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Old 29th September 2017, 09:12 PM   #4
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LOL!!!!! Can't believe my Thread started all this !!! But interesting.

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Old 30th September 2017, 08:02 PM   #5
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That's how things are here, Rick; wild .
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my early exposure to spanish was of course flavoured by the colonial version spoken south of the border, in my years in texas and california. also flavoured by liberal internal applications of the above mentioned tequilla (in margharitas). what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

surprise! when i got to valencia on a summer training cruise, they all lithp their S's! apparently, one of the royals way back had a lisp, so rather than embarrass him and lose their heads, everyone around him always lisped too. it became fashionable, and the custom perpetuates to this day, but never made it to the new world. so for a few days i was called by the local female wildlife as 'that crazy mexican'. the portugese also seems to have resisted the lisp.
Wonderful story!
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Old 24th April 2020, 03:41 PM   #7
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No ... no lithpers here .
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No ... no lithpers here .
Methinkth lithpers are restricted to the thpanith thectionth of the Iberian penonthula.

p.th. - the young lady i'd mentioned was a bikini clad brunette beach beauty with whom I exchanged a few wordth pointing at objectth and having her tell me the thpanith equivalenth. Pointing to my thun gllatheth thuddenly expothed the problem. I said 'Sun Glasses' and she said 'Glatheth'. We explored our other differences in depth later.
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... the young lady i'd mentioned was a bikini clad brunette beach beauty ...
Wayne, tell me that you are not color blind ... nor short sighted .
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Wayne, tell me that you are not color blind ... nor short sighted .
No, I am 'far-sighted' and all my rods and cones respond to the normal range of colours. I need reading glasses, but my sense of touch is still working. I am however racially colour-blind.

As a proper old fart and curmudgeon, and a founding member of the Association of True BSTDS, I hate all people of all races, skin and hair colours, creeds, education, social level, physical appearance equally. Audemus jura nostra defendere.

(I do however have a weakness for cute young blonde women. Getting older just increases the upper boundary of the age range of the 'young' part of that initial paranthetic sentence. Heck, I also don't mind a lot if they are older than me.)

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Old 25th April 2020, 04:37 PM   #11
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We explored our other differences in depth later.
Very interethting!!!!!
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"The overall accent and language of modern USA (and Canadian) citizens is actually closer to pre-Victorian 'Proper King's English', The current proliferation of local regional variants in the UK enables me to tell people here That I'M the one speaking 'Proper' English, not them. "

What absolute rubbish! The only proper English is English English - like wot we rabbit.
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WOW !! Can't believe I posted this 2 1/2 years ago. Don't know where the time has gone.

Since this original post the loose grip has been correctly positioned and repaired. It's now snug and tight. The blade re-sharpened and a custom, frontier style sheath accompanies it. It's now ready to return to service, if needed. LOL

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Excellent job. Great knife.

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my early exposure to spanish was of course flavoured by the colonial version spoken south of the border, in my years in texas and california. also flavoured by liberal internal applications of the above mentioned tequilla (in margharitas). what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

surprise! when i got to valencia on a summer training cruise, they all lithp their S's! apparently, one of the royals way back had a lisp, so rather than embarrass him and lose their heads, everyone around him always lisped too. it became fashionable, and the custom perpetuates to this day, but never made it to the new world. so for a few days i was called by the local female wildlife as 'that crazy mexican'. the portugese also seems to have resisted the lisp.
I had two teachers of Spanish, about 20 years ago, one from Colombia and the other from Spain, so I can confirm your experience. The differences go beyond the lisp, and even effect the vocabulary. One explanation being that many of the colonists were actually Italian, another that archaic forms were preserved in the colonial patois (as with US Anglic) and the other that the colonists picked up sailors slang on the voyage.
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... archaic forms were preserved in the colonial patois (as with US Anglic) ...
The overall accent and language of modern USA (and Canadian) citizens is actually closer to pre-Victorian 'Proper King's English', The current proliferation of local regional variants in the UK enables me to tell people here That I'M the one speaking 'Proper' English, not them.
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