Need Help to Identify Sepuh (Old) / Kamardikan Java Keris

Bejo · 7th August 2017, 05:09 PM

Hello David,

I have attached the photos, but I dont know why they did not show up. Thank you for your information

. Hope the photos will shop up now

Additional information :
Gayaman in the picture is the original warongko when I got this keris. I just replace the old gandar and pendok (banyumas bunton style use mamas) with new ones like in the picture. My mranggi just resharpened the edges and "gebeg ulang" (dont know the English words) the gayaman.

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joe

Bejo · 7th August 2017, 05:25 PM

More photos about :
1. The original warongko and still dirty keris.
2. The keris after the first warang with more malela looks like pamor.

A. G. Maisey · 7th August 2017, 09:19 PM

Gebeg>nggebeg>polish, burnish;

Ulang> ngulang> to do again.

In English:- restore & burnish

Old keris, Jogja.

Bejo · 8th August 2017, 02:20 AM

Thank you for your help

Best regards,

Joe

Jean · 8th August 2017, 09:12 AM

What a mess around the pesi hole!
Regards

Bejo · 8th August 2017, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

What a mess around the pesi hole!
Regards

Hello Jean,

Yes, I agree with that. Do you have any idea the cause of that scratches?

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joe

A. G. Maisey · 8th August 2017, 10:57 PM

Yeah, the way in which the gonjo has been fixed is a bit untidy, but whoever has done it has probably done the best he could.

From the pics, it looks like the hole was too big, or the pesi too small, so a collar has been made to reduce hole diameter, and then that added collar has been tightened by punching with a drift. This sort of repair is an old one, before we had things like wonder adhesives. In my opinion it is an enhancement to the collectability of the keris, rather than something undesirable:- it tells the story of the keris.

7th August 2017, 05:09 PM	#1
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Hello David, I have attached the photos, but I dont know why they did not show up. Thank you for your information . Hope the photos will shop up now Additional information : Gayaman in the picture is the original warongko when I got this keris. I just replace the old gandar and pendok (banyumas bunton style use mamas) with new ones like in the picture. My mranggi just resharpened the edges and "gebeg ulang" (dont know the English words) the gayaman. Thank you, Best regards, Joe Attached Images

7th August 2017, 05:25 PM	#2
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	More photos about : 1. The original warongko and still dirty keris. 2. The keris after the first warang with more malela looks like pamor. Attached Images

7th August 2017, 09:19 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	Gebeg>nggebeg>polish, burnish; Ulang> ngulang> to do again. In English:- restore & burnish Old keris, Jogja.

8th August 2017, 02:20 AM	#4
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Thank you for your help Best regards, Joe

8th August 2017, 09:12 AM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	What a mess around the pesi hole! Regards

8th August 2017, 10:57 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	Yeah, the way in which the gonjo has been fixed is a bit untidy, but whoever has done it has probably done the best he could. From the pics, it looks like the hole was too big, or the pesi too small, so a collar has been made to reduce hole diameter, and then that added collar has been tightened by punching with a drift. This sort of repair is an old one, before we had things like wonder adhesives. In my opinion it is an enhancement to the collectability of the keris, rather than something undesirable:- it tells the story of the keris.