Old Javanese keris for comment

A. G. Maisey · 7th August 2017, 02:16 AM

I thought the same. but it does not look like an adaptation, it looks like it was made for this hilt.

alexish · 7th August 2017, 03:49 AM

Any comments on the Pendok - does it tend towards Solo or Jogja style?

I believe it is antique silver.

Sajen · 7th August 2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alexish

Any comments on the Pendok - does it tend towards Solo or Jogja style?

I believe it is antique silver.

Hello Alexish,

Alan give already a hint towards Banyumas, Central Java. But for sure not Solo or Yogya IMVHO.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 7th August 2017, 12:54 PM

The pendok might be silver, but it much more likely to mamas --- in any case, its very easy to test.

The curve of the pendok doesn't bother me Detlef. I've seen a lot of variation in this with Banyumas pendoks, I doubt that it is something that we can use to guide us.

Sajen · 7th August 2017, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The curve of the pendok doesn't bother me Detlef. I've seen a lot of variation in this with Banyumas pendoks, I doubt that it is something that we can use to guide us.

You have seen/handled for sure a lot more as I am so you will be correct, all I've seen are nearly straight or only a little bit curved at the mouth.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 7th August 2017, 09:09 PM

No, not necessarily, I do not pay nearly as much attention as most people to dress variation, from my perspective dress is not very important at all, more or less just a curiosity.

Jean · 8th August 2017, 09:07 AM

I fully agree with Alan's opinion but would like to add 2 detailed comments:
. The ganja is quite straight while the scabbard atasan is very curved even in its center part so I think that the blade & scabbard are not originally matching.
. The pendok shows a gap with the gandar on the top left corner so I think that it is also not the original one.
Regards

7th August 2017, 03:49 AM	#2
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Pendok Any comments on the Pendok - does it tend towards Solo or Jogja style? I believe it is antique silver.

7th August 2017, 02:16 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	I thought the same. but it does not look like an adaptation, it looks like it was made for this hilt.

7th August 2017, 12:54 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	The pendok might be silver, but it much more likely to mamas --- in any case, its very easy to test. The curve of the pendok doesn't bother me Detlef. I've seen a lot of variation in this with Banyumas pendoks, I doubt that it is something that we can use to guide us.

7th August 2017, 09:09 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	No, not necessarily, I do not pay nearly as much attention as most people to dress variation, from my perspective dress is not very important at all, more or less just a curiosity.

8th August 2017, 09:07 AM	#7
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I fully agree with Alan's opinion but would like to add 2 detailed comments: . The ganja is quite straight while the scabbard atasan is very curved even in its center part so I think that the blade & scabbard are not originally matching. . The pendok shows a gap with the gandar on the top left corner so I think that it is also not the original one. Regards