Strange Mendak on Yogyakarta Keris

Bjorn · 16th July 2017, 07:01 PM

Personally, I find the parijoto copper mendak to look very pleasing on the ensemble.

Marcokeris · 16th July 2017, 11:12 PM

A. G. Maisey · 16th July 2017, 11:43 PM

Looks good.

David · 17th July 2017, 05:01 AM

Yes, it definitely looks better now. The pamor is more striking in this new photo. I like this keris.

Johan van Zyl · 17th July 2017, 09:16 AM

It does look much better.

Something I am noticing: the 13 waves are very well executed, in the sense that they are strongly curving. I don't recall that I have read anything yet about strongly curving versus weakly curving luks. Or I might just have missed it...

Are there any norms about the extent of the curvatures? Or might we just simply need to say the empu was very expert in executing the waves?

Johan

Athanase · 17th July 2017, 09:40 AM

Thank you everyone for your comment.
For the strong curves I can't comment because it is the only one of my Kriss with a blade like this one.

A. G. Maisey · 17th July 2017, 09:46 AM

The form of a wave (luk) is dependent upon the classification of the keris:- long, slow waves point towards one classification, short, deep waves point towards a different classification.

I've used the word "classification" as a substitute for "tangguh", it doesn't mean "tangguh", but it is a more objective way of thinking about a blade.

See:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/keristangguh.html

David · 17th July 2017, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johan van Zyl

I don't recall that I have read anything yet about strongly curving versus weakly curving luks. Or I might just have missed it...

As Alan has pointed out, this is dependent upon the classification of the keris and while i would agree that this keris is well executed i would personally avoid using the terms "strong vs. weak" to describe this feature since that seems to imply a "good/bad" aspect to the feature being assessed. I might suggest "deep vs. shallow" or something like that since i would not say that deep luks are "better" than shallow luks or that the maker's skills are necessarily any better on this keris because of the deep luks than the skills of a smith who has created a shallow luk keris.

A. G. Maisey · 17th July 2017, 09:38 PM

If our interest has turned towards the level of skill of the person who made this keris, perhaps a detailed examination of the execution of the various characteristics of the keris might be useful.

For example, does anybody have any comments on the sogokan, greneng, kembang kacang?

16th July 2017, 07:01 PM	#1
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	Personally, I find the parijoto copper mendak to look very pleasing on the ensemble.

16th July 2017, 11:12 PM	#2
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928

16th July 2017, 11:43 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Looks good.

17th July 2017, 05:01 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Yes, it definitely looks better now. The pamor is more striking in this new photo. I like this keris.

17th July 2017, 09:16 AM	#5
Johan van Zyl Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: I live in Gordon's Bay, a village in the Western Cape Province in South Africa. Posts: 126	It does look much better. Something I am noticing: the 13 waves are very well executed, in the sense that they are strongly curving. I don't recall that I have read anything yet about strongly curving versus weakly curving luks. Or I might just have missed it... Are there any norms about the extent of the curvatures? Or might we just simply need to say the empu was very expert in executing the waves? Johan

17th July 2017, 09:40 AM	#6
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 417	Thank you everyone for your comment. For the strong curves I can't comment because it is the only one of my Kriss with a blade like this one.

17th July 2017, 09:46 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	The form of a wave (luk) is dependent upon the classification of the keris:- long, slow waves point towards one classification, short, deep waves point towards a different classification. I've used the word "classification" as a substitute for "tangguh", it doesn't mean "tangguh", but it is a more objective way of thinking about a blade. See:- http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/keristangguh.html

17th July 2017, 09:38 PM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	If our interest has turned towards the level of skill of the person who made this keris, perhaps a detailed examination of the execution of the various characteristics of the keris might be useful. For example, does anybody have any comments on the sogokan, greneng, kembang kacang?