Nice karabela hitled shamshir

Jim McDougall · 10th March 2006, 03:49 AM

Getting back to the karabela being discussed here, I am inclined to agree with Ham, this floral guard seems cast. I also am inclined to this being quite possibly a modern product or furbishing of components done most likely in India.
Regardless of where it was made or when, one cannot overlook the innate beauty of a karabela sabre. I have seen a modern interpretation of one of these crafted in Poland, and the high quality of the work certainly reflected the deep pride with which these historic sabres are held in thier country.

Outstanding discussion on the Khevsur swords!!! I think it's excellent that we're finally getting some awareness and sound knowledge on these swords that were relatively unknown just over ten years ago.

Best regards,
Jim

ham · 10th March 2006, 06:34 AM

Well said, Jim.
Members like yourself, Yannis and others have really opened up the subject of Khevsur arms and kept it going. Bravo
Ariel, regarding this Khevsur sword-- it is such late work, you can't really abstract and attribute characteristics like the shape of the rings on the suspension bands anymore-- they are probably gas-welded on, in any case. It's a hodgepodge of elements. With this in mind however, it does shows some Kubachi influence as you suggest.

Ham

ariel · 10th March 2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ham

Well said, Jim.
Members like yourself, Yannis and others have really opened up the subject of Khevsur arms and kept it going. Bravo
Ariel, regarding this Khevsur sword-- it is such late work, you can't really abstract and attribute characteristics like the shape of the rings on the suspension bands anymore-- they are probably gas-welded on, in any case. It's a hodgepodge of elements. With this in mind however, it does shows some Kubachi influence as you suggest.

Ham

Now we are getting somewhere.
Glad you agree that the sword in question is recent, hodge-podge and suspect. That was exactly my point and I likely did not get it across very well.
At the end of the day I am glad I managed to get a grip on myself at the last moment and did not throw money away on that insane purchase.
The "ivory hilted" one is another story altogether...... Any chance to turn the clock back? Time machine, anyone?

10th March 2006, 03:49 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,512	Getting back to the karabela being discussed here, I am inclined to agree with Ham, this floral guard seems cast. I also am inclined to this being quite possibly a modern product or furbishing of components done most likely in India. Regardless of where it was made or when, one cannot overlook the innate beauty of a karabela sabre. I have seen a modern interpretation of one of these crafted in Poland, and the high quality of the work certainly reflected the deep pride with which these historic sabres are held in thier country. Outstanding discussion on the Khevsur swords!!! I think it's excellent that we're finally getting some awareness and sound knowledge on these swords that were relatively unknown just over ten years ago. Best regards, Jim

10th March 2006, 06:34 AM	#2
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Well said, Jim. Members like yourself, Yannis and others have really opened up the subject of Khevsur arms and kept it going. Bravo Ariel, regarding this Khevsur sword-- it is such late work, you can't really abstract and attribute characteristics like the shape of the rings on the suspension bands anymore-- they are probably gas-welded on, in any case. It's a hodgepodge of elements. With this in mind however, it does shows some Kubachi influence as you suggest. Ham