Japanese dagger in Aynu style?

Maskell · 14th June 2017, 04:47 AM

Just a word of caution, many of these metal screw mekugi (rivit) are reversed thread, you think you are unscrewing it but actually tightened it up & to the point of breaking off the head, try it both ways gently. I've learned the hard way years ago.

Best,
Maskell
Jerry

Battara · 14th June 2017, 03:51 PM

Again more great info Maskell. Thank you all for posting and illuminating this type of piece.

pbleed · 16th June 2017, 02:02 AM

While hunting Ainu cutlery I have seen a couple of these short sword that have carved koshirae that seems to reference Ainu motif. They feature something like "fish scale" designs. they are carved on dark wood and they don't look terribly "Japanese." I even one one of these swords, but I have to admit that they do not fit neatly and clearly into Ainu style. My sword of this style is actually a spear point that re-purposed as a sword. That, too, seems appropriate for Ainu swords since they often are built around blades that would NOT be "good" to Japanese users. They're always short swords, too. Finally, these swords often seem to be well carved - as if they were made by Japanese professionals FOR the Ainu market rather than fitted out by Ainu carvers. I prefer the rustic style of individualized Ainu pieces.
The Ainu trade featured lots of items that were made by Japanese officials as ceremonial pieces for men that Japanese wanted to be recognized as important - their pals. I wonder if this sword - and this type - may have been that sort of thing. In any case, I would not work too hard to expose the tang of the blade. It is VERY unlikely to be significant as a "Japanese" blade.
Peter Bleed

Rick · 16th June 2017, 04:11 AM

What is that little piece hanging from the hilt on a string?

Tatyana Dianova · 18th June 2017, 08:32 PM

Thank you for your insights Peter - it really explains the mystery!
I do not think that the eyes are rivets - they lay offset, and the angle doesn't match either. I do not want make any damage.
The small thing is a roll of paper with some signs on it. The roll is glued, I wasn't able to unroll it. It is included in a knotted half-sphere.

18th June 2017, 08:32 PM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 734	Thank you for your insights Peter - it really explains the mystery! I do not think that the eyes are rivets - they lay offset, and the angle doesn't match either. I do not want make any damage. The small thing is a roll of paper with some signs on it. The roll is glued, I wasn't able to unroll it. It is included in a knotted half-sphere. Attached Images

14th June 2017, 04:47 AM	#1
Maskell Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 38	Just a word of caution, many of these metal screw mekugi (rivit) are reversed thread, you think you are unscrewing it but actually tightened it up & to the point of breaking off the head, try it both ways gently. I've learned the hard way years ago. Best, Maskell Jerry

14th June 2017, 03:51 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Again more great info Maskell. Thank you all for posting and illuminating this type of piece.

16th June 2017, 02:02 AM	#3
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 88	While hunting Ainu cutlery I have seen a couple of these short sword that have carved koshirae that seems to reference Ainu motif. They feature something like "fish scale" designs. they are carved on dark wood and they don't look terribly "Japanese." I even one one of these swords, but I have to admit that they do not fit neatly and clearly into Ainu style. My sword of this style is actually a spear point that re-purposed as a sword. That, too, seems appropriate for Ainu swords since they often are built around blades that would NOT be "good" to Japanese users. They're always short swords, too. Finally, these swords often seem to be well carved - as if they were made by Japanese professionals FOR the Ainu market rather than fitted out by Ainu carvers. I prefer the rustic style of individualized Ainu pieces. The Ainu trade featured lots of items that were made by Japanese officials as ceremonial pieces for men that Japanese wanted to be recognized as important - their pals. I wonder if this sword - and this type - may have been that sort of thing. In any case, I would not work too hard to expose the tang of the blade. It is VERY unlikely to be significant as a "Japanese" blade. Peter Bleed

16th June 2017, 04:11 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	What is that little piece hanging from the hilt on a string?