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Old 5th May 2017, 04:07 PM   #1
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There was no picture in post #5 but only my atempt to identify Marcus item 2.
I am no expert in these things; was only making some association between Italian hunting knives out there plus my own example, with that of Marcus. I realize all three have the same blade approach. But i wouldn't resist any knowledgeable verdict.


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Old 5th May 2017, 04:11 PM   #2
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And by the way, i confess i am not fond of including in this Italian knives typology, the so called traditional Albacete cuchillos. But again, i know that i know nothing .


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Old 5th May 2017, 05:14 PM   #3
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Ok, this was my mistake, I thought of the dagger in post #4

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And by the way, i confess i am not fond of including in this Italian knives typology, the so called traditional Albacete daggers.
It was not my intention to say that the daggers in question are coming from Spain, what I said is that the daggers in #4 are coming from the Ligurian coast and that the blades in your last post are more those of knifes than the typical Ligurian daggers. And by the way: The early Albacete daggers have in my eyes a certain resemblance to the ones of Liguria. So in my opinion they are - as I said before - at least influenced by the Italian pieces.
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Old 5th May 2017, 05:52 PM   #4
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... The early Albacete daggers have in my eyes a certain resemblance to the ones of Liguria. So in my opinion they are - as I said before - at least influenced by the Italian pieces.
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Or the other way round, corrado ? We know that they make cutlery in Albacete since the XV century; and they are said to have inherited North African moors techniques. And we also know that Southern Italy has been under Spanish domain from right after that period. It would take time to check on this .
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Or the other way round, corrado ? .
Possibly you are right!!
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Old 6th May 2017, 01:40 PM   #6
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Thank you all for the comments and helpful additional illustrations. I have been traveling the past few days and so have not been able to find time to comment.

The drop point blade of number 2 puts me in mind of American Bowie knives, many of which, like the example shown, were made in England.

The knife shown by Norman, resembling the Spanish form, is also like those from the Canary Islands.

I include also a picture of my Albacete.
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