Forged in Fire - panabas

kronckew · 5th May 2017, 08:26 AM

yes, and swords and knives made in a race of 3 hrs under pressure in an excessively hot room, from weird and unknown materials are designed by them, like the originals to cut thru dried out cow thigh bones or elk antlers without chipping, bending or rolling the edge, and must be able to then cut thru a car in one swipe and punch holes in an abrams m1a2 tank. watching the 'tests' in slow motion reveal the expert edge alignment to hit the targets at the wrong angle is also instructive.

the tests are obviously designed to mimic conditions that edged weapons are used under in history and current life. (NOT)

i am surprised that some actually get thru the tests. you at least get doug occasionally commenting about the idiocy of the test, tho without actually condemning them. they are designed for entertaining the masses, not to test the blades. as a reasonably good martial artist, doug must be embarrassed at the stuff he has to spout from the script. he did at one point on the one i watched last night, refer to the elk antler chopping test of the west african ida swords they'd made as 'abuse'. the guy whose sword had a thicker profile and didn't slice as well and bent a bit won because the sharper one that cut stretched bungee cord better but chipped on the antler was a failure of the 'functional' tests.

i much prefer the 'iron and fire' show that appears here just after the comedy version called 'forged in fire'. he makes real knives, tomahawks and historically accurate black powder firearms, old school. and blows things up.

Rafngard · 5th May 2017, 12:24 PM

Because I collect and I study kali, more than one friend of mine has recommended the show. I tried a couple episodes.

Loved the smiths, loved Marcaida, loved the blades, hated the show.

Thanks,
Leif

Battara · 6th May 2017, 02:50 AM

Well it seems to be based on the food network show "Chopped", so..........

Philip · 6th May 2017, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Well it seems to be based on the food network show "Chopped", so..........

Well then, wasn't it appropriate that they whacked through a cow's thigh bone in one episode? Glad it was a dried-out one so presumably this bovine had previously met her demise by other means. Otherwise the BJP and PETA would be all over the producers of this show like stink on you-know-what.

kronckew · 6th May 2017, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Philip

Well then, wasn't it appropriate that they whacked through a cow's thigh bone in one episode? Glad it was a dried-out one so presumably this bovine had previously met her demise by other means. Otherwise the BJP and PETA would be all over the producers of this show like stink on you-know-what.

over here they cut the scenes where they cut animal parts, vegetation, or ballistic gel figures before 9pm.late night episodes they leave them in. might scare the young sheeple. i belong to the real PETA. (People Eating Tasty Animals).

the other PETA believes in scaring little children with gory comics accusing their parents of murder, then kills over 95% of the animals they take in for rehoming after promising to find them a new home. usually in the back of the van as they leave the home. usually dumping the carcasses in the nearest wheelie bin behind a fast food joint or supermarket. the ethical part of their name is not very ethical. they have none. they will cheerfully lie. they exist to garnish money.

Philip · 6th May 2017, 07:55 AM

I trust that you've also elevated chef Fergus Henderson's THE WHOLE BEAST: NOSE TO TAIL EATING to the degree of reverence accorded the four Gospels. BTW, have been looking for one of those "real" PETA T-shirts for quite awhile after noticing someone, at a distance and in passing, wearing one in a crowd.

I know all about the other PETA, and their penchant for scaring kids with their gory propaganda. They show up at parking lots to picket the Wienermobile when it makes its periodic goodwill tours of the US. And boy, how they traumatize those little kiddos who show up with Mom and Dad to sing the wiener song and partake of the iconic Oscar Mayer fronkfoyter! They even send their agitprop crew to my neighborhood farmers' market on Saturdays to scream at the fishmongers and butchers! We do our best to try drown them out with a chorus of pig and cow noises.

Lee · 6th May 2017, 12:25 PM

I guess that I must confess that watching Forged in Fire is one of my guilty pleasures. However, I tend toward liking blade smiths in general and this program often seems like merely a sadomasochistic exercise directed towards them. Martial artist Doug Marcaida's insights are entertaining and do seem relevant and worthwhile; the other panelists and the host are, at best, irritating. I have briefly discussed the show with accomplished blade smiths - briefly because they do not watch the show and suggest I follow their lead in that - and the general consensus is that there is very little if any upside and a tremendous amount of potential downside to any blade smith subjecting themselves to this 'competition.' Weird mystery metal worked against the clock and finalist assignments well beyond the scope of contestant's shop tooling do show the blade smith's resilience and perseverance and it is amazing that as many of their works are as good as they are.

As to animal rights activists, I'll admit that I am not a flesh eater, but these groups are largely guilty of promoting the view among our lawmakers that vilifying and prohibiting transfer of a 150 year old kris with an ivory pommel will somehow protect elephants in the wild today.

5th May 2017, 08:26 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	yes, and swords and knives made in a race of 3 hrs under pressure in an excessively hot room, from weird and unknown materials are designed by them, like the originals to cut thru dried out cow thigh bones or elk antlers without chipping, bending or rolling the edge, and must be able to then cut thru a car in one swipe and punch holes in an abrams m1a2 tank. watching the 'tests' in slow motion reveal the expert edge alignment to hit the targets at the wrong angle is also instructive. the tests are obviously designed to mimic conditions that edged weapons are used under in history and current life. (NOT) i am surprised that some actually get thru the tests. you at least get doug occasionally commenting about the idiocy of the test, tho without actually condemning them. they are designed for entertaining the masses, not to test the blades. as a reasonably good martial artist, doug must be embarrassed at the stuff he has to spout from the script. he did at one point on the one i watched last night, refer to the elk antler chopping test of the west african ida swords they'd made as 'abuse'. the guy whose sword had a thicker profile and didn't slice as well and bent a bit won because the sharper one that cut stretched bungee cord better but chipped on the antler was a failure of the 'functional' tests. i much prefer the 'iron and fire' show that appears here just after the comedy version called 'forged in fire'. he makes real knives, tomahawks and historically accurate black powder firearms, old school. and blows things up. Last edited by kronckew; 5th May 2017 at 10:01 AM.

6th May 2017, 12:25 PM	#7
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 932	Guilty Pleasure I guess that I must confess that watching Forged in Fire is one of my guilty pleasures. However, I tend toward liking blade smiths in general and this program often seems like merely a sadomasochistic exercise directed towards them. Martial artist Doug Marcaida's insights are entertaining and do seem relevant and worthwhile; the other panelists and the host are, at best, irritating. I have briefly discussed the show with accomplished blade smiths - briefly because they do not watch the show and suggest I follow their lead in that - and the general consensus is that there is very little if any upside and a tremendous amount of potential downside to any blade smith subjecting themselves to this 'competition.' Weird mystery metal worked against the clock and finalist assignments well beyond the scope of contestant's shop tooling do show the blade smith's resilience and perseverance and it is amazing that as many of their works are as good as they are. As to animal rights activists, I'll admit that I am not a flesh eater, but these groups are largely guilty of promoting the view among our lawmakers that vilifying and prohibiting transfer of a 150 year old kris with an ivory pommel will somehow protect elephants in the wild today.

5th May 2017, 12:24 PM	#2
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 348	Because I collect and I study kali, more than one friend of mine has recommended the show. I tried a couple episodes. Loved the smiths, loved Marcaida, loved the blades, hated the show. Thanks, Leif

6th May 2017, 02:50 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Well it seems to be based on the food network show "Chopped", so..........

6th May 2017, 07:55 AM	#6
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	I trust that you've also elevated chef Fergus Henderson's THE WHOLE BEAST: NOSE TO TAIL EATING to the degree of reverence accorded the four Gospels. BTW, have been looking for one of those "real" PETA T-shirts for quite awhile after noticing someone, at a distance and in passing, wearing one in a crowd. I know all about the other PETA, and their penchant for scaring kids with their gory propaganda. They show up at parking lots to picket the Wienermobile when it makes its periodic goodwill tours of the US. And boy, how they traumatize those little kiddos who show up with Mom and Dad to sing the wiener song and partake of the iconic Oscar Mayer fronkfoyter! They even send their agitprop crew to my neighborhood farmers' market on Saturdays to scream at the fishmongers and butchers! We do our best to try drown them out with a chorus of pig and cow noises.