Maucher Wheellock hunting rifle - economy version?

Pukka Bundook · 6th April 2017, 03:28 AM

Ken,

I think you are being rather kind and understate the distance from Branenburg area! ...It's about as far away as it can get and still be in Germany.
Without spending some time digging, I can not say why your fine rifle, that bears every mark of having been made in the Brandenburg area, should have been made by someone down in SW Germany!

Even the three ivory flower escutcheons around the sidenails are Identical to those seen on some Brandenburg guns, as is the muzzle cap and shape of the buttplate.

I do not have Stockel, but did Johann Michael Maucher serve his time under Elias Shintzel in Berlin by any chance? This work and the latter's are so alike as to appear made by the same hand.
The differing schools had influence over larger areas that at times overlapped, but this does in no way account for your rifle and where it was made. I could understand it if it had merely a n odd feature from N. Germany, but it has No features at all from the area where it appears to have come from!
I am please you have ordered George's book it may help you more than me!
What I can not find at present, is any reference to this maker, yet I Know I have heard of him well enough. Just can't find references at present.

There is no ES stamped into the barrel breech is there? (Still thinking how much it is like Elias Shintzell's work)

I will do some digging Ken, but a grand rifle!

Richard.

Edited to say;
Having re-read you posts, Ken, and I note you say "Attributed to ". Do I understand it correctly that your rifle (and Jaspers maybe? )do not have signatures on them?

Ken N · 6th April 2017, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Having re-read you posts, Ken, and I note you say "Attributed to ". Do I understand it correctly that your rifle (and Jaspers maybe? )do not have signatures on them?

Mine has no signature on it that I am aware of. No ES stamped into the barrel breech.

I must admit that the only reason I had assumed this rifle to be attributed to Johann Michael Maucher is due to it's similarities with the rifle shown by Cornelistromp which according to his thread is so attributed.

Pukka Bundook · 6th April 2017, 02:03 PM

Ken,

Do you think that Jasper's lovely rifle may have had the stock carved by J M M?
What I am getting at, is that his rifle has these initials in the bottom of the barrel channel, which May mean that he was the stocker, Or carved an existing stock. It is very high -end work!
Yours is so "Right" for the Brandenburg /Berlin area, that I find it very difficult to think it could come from anywhere else. :-)

Sending you a PM.

Richard.

Edit, Can't send PM for some reason Ken.

fernando · 6th April 2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

...Can't send PM for some reason Ken...

That was because he wasn't yet a regular member; now you can PM him

Pukka Bundook · 6th April 2017, 02:26 PM

Ah, Thank you my friend!!

Very kind of you.

6th April 2017, 03:28 AM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Ken, I think you are being rather kind and understate the distance from Branenburg area! ...It's about as far away as it can get and still be in Germany. Without spending some time digging, I can not say why your fine rifle, that bears every mark of having been made in the Brandenburg area, should have been made by someone down in SW Germany! Even the three ivory flower escutcheons around the sidenails are Identical to those seen on some Brandenburg guns, as is the muzzle cap and shape of the buttplate. I do not have Stockel, but did Johann Michael Maucher serve his time under Elias Shintzel in Berlin by any chance? This work and the latter's are so alike as to appear made by the same hand. The differing schools had influence over larger areas that at times overlapped, but this does in no way account for your rifle and where it was made. I could understand it if it had merely a n odd feature from N. Germany, but it has No features at all from the area where it appears to have come from! I am please you have ordered George's book it may help you more than me! What I can not find at present, is any reference to this maker, yet I Know I have heard of him well enough. Just can't find references at present. There is no ES stamped into the barrel breech is there? (Still thinking how much it is like Elias Shintzell's work) I will do some digging Ken, but a grand rifle! Richard. Edited to say; Having re-read you posts, Ken, and I note you say "Attributed to ". Do I understand it correctly that your rifle (and Jaspers maybe? )do not have signatures on them?

6th April 2017, 02:03 PM	#3
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Ken, Do you think that Jasper's lovely rifle may have had the stock carved by J M M? What I am getting at, is that his rifle has these initials in the bottom of the barrel channel, which May mean that he was the stocker, Or carved an existing stock. It is very high -end work! Yours is so "Right" for the Brandenburg /Berlin area, that I find it very difficult to think it could come from anywhere else. :-) Sending you a PM. Richard. Edit, Can't send PM for some reason Ken.

6th April 2017, 02:26 PM	#5
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Ah, Thank you my friend!! Very kind of you.