Pala - antique or repro?!

mariusgmioc · 6th March 2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by grendolino

The grip is wood what makes me a little suspicious. On the other hand I was always intersted where they had so broad horns from.

Nope. The grip is horn, as it is clearly visible under 5x magnification.

Possibly rhino but it looks somehow different fom another one I have.

ariel · 6th March 2017, 07:11 PM

I do not think you have anything to worry about: 100% genuine.

asomotif · 6th March 2017, 07:54 PM

Call me paranoid, but I suspect this to be brand new made in China.

mariusgmioc · 6th March 2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Call me paranoid, but I suspect this to be brand new made in China.

Yesss! That's what I suspected all along! Thank you for confirming my suspicions! Hurray, I'm not paranoid!

I started looking for the "Made in China" marking.

ariel · 6th March 2017, 08:56 PM

Yeah... China...:-)))

He simply wants you to sell it to him for 2 peanuts.
I can give you 4!!!
Any higher bidder?:-)))

Oliver Pinchot · 6th March 2017, 08:56 PM

It's perfectly authentic, second half of the 19th century. It's a later than average example and condition is quite good, showing very little wear. That said, the wiggle engraving on the mounts is probably later. It's likely they were plain silver originally.

In fact, Ottoman smiths did boil horn to make it flexible. Wooden grips aren't especially common but were certainly known.

Six peanuts, Ariel.

mariusgmioc · 6th March 2017, 10:04 PM

Thank you guys for comments!

But now that it is well established that it is made in China, I won't sell it for anything but Yuan.

Well... maybe peanuts too... but butter!

Kubur · 7th March 2017, 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=That said, the wiggle engraving on the mounts is probably later. It's likely they were plain silver originally.
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I don't think Oliver, the wiggle engravings are the same on scabbard and guard. This sword is perfectly coherent to me.

David R · 7th March 2017, 09:21 AM

If it is a repro' it's a very good one, more of a "new made in the tradition" rather than a fake. Also more likely Syria or India than China.
Myself, without having it in hand I would guess late 19th early 20th century "Ottoman Revival", or a dress sword, a nice piece and well worth having.

6th March 2017, 07:11 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I do not think you have anything to worry about: 100% genuine.

6th March 2017, 07:54 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Call me paranoid, but I suspect this to be brand new made in China.

6th March 2017, 08:56 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yeah... China...:-))) He simply wants you to sell it to him for 2 peanuts. I can give you 4!!! Any higher bidder?:-)))

6th March 2017, 08:56 PM	#6
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 462	It's perfectly authentic, second half of the 19th century. It's a later than average example and condition is quite good, showing very little wear. That said, the wiggle engraving on the mounts is probably later. It's likely they were plain silver originally. In fact, Ottoman smiths did boil horn to make it flexible. Wooden grips aren't especially common but were certainly known. Six peanuts, Ariel.

6th March 2017, 10:04 PM	#7
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	Thank you guys for comments! But now that it is well established that it is made in China, I won't sell it for anything but Yuan. Well... maybe peanuts too... but butter!

7th March 2017, 09:02 AM	#8
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	[QUOTE=That said, the wiggle engraving on the mounts is probably later. It's likely they were plain silver originally. [/QUOTE] I don't think Oliver, the wiggle engravings are the same on scabbard and guard. This sword is perfectly coherent to me.

7th March 2017, 09:21 AM	#9
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,116	If it is a repro' it's a very good one, more of a "new made in the tradition" rather than a fake. Also more likely Syria or India than China. Myself, without having it in hand I would guess late 19th early 20th century "Ottoman Revival", or a dress sword, a nice piece and well worth having.