Kris with a repaired ganya?

[Green]

Ron; Thanks for the link.

F de Luzon;

Good idea about wraping up with cloth on the top part of the scabbard where the rattan bainding is now missing. But I believe the scabbard has the rattan all the way up to the cross piece originally.

I have people here that do rattan works (for chairs and such) who can easily put new rattan binding at this missing part - although I'm very sure they can not replicate the original exactly. The original looks v brittle now and was protected by previous owner with transparent tape which is peeling off now. I'm not sure if I should do this (new rattan binding for missing part) or just use cloth binding which is a lot easier or leave the thing as it is.

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I recieved the kris last week (see pics with purplish mat background). The cross piece decoration is very similar to some barongs. I did a little bit of amateurish cleaning with vineger (see pics with red background) . The blade showed 'pamor' and laminated(?). Is this usual for Kris? the okir look quite nice to me.

[F. de Luzon]

Originally Posted by Green

Ron; Thanks for the link.

F de Luzon;

Good idea about wraping up with cloth on the top part of the scabbard where the rattan bainding is now missing. But I believe the scabbard has the rattan all the way up to the cross piece originally.

I have people here that do rattan works (for chairs and such) who can easily put new rattan binding at this missing part - although I'm very sure they can not replicate the original exactly. The original looks v brittle now and was protected by previous owner with transparent tape which is peeling off now. I'm not sure if I should do this (new rattan binding for missing part) or just use cloth binding which is a lot easier or leave the thing as it is.
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Hi Green,

Be very careful when drawing the kris from the scabbard if the binding is brittle. I've heard of several accidents when this type of scabbard splits.

F. de Luzon

[David]

That cleaned up nicely Green. What your post-cleaned kris shows is indeed lamination, not pamor. Have you determined if the fittings are aluminum or some other kind of white metal. They look less like aluminum in the after cleaned photos. If they are not aluminum i'd say it is more likely the kris is a little older than i first thought, perhaps around WWII era. Shame about the missing MOP. It would be nice to replace them, but it would be difficult to match the designed pieces properly.

[Green]

Thanks David;

Not sure what you mean by fittings, but the baca baca was not made from aluminium. the metal is coppery in color and you can see green precipitates/stain still uncleaned in the pic which indicate that it is some form of copper alloy?

However at the base of the baca baca I guess previous owner added little clamps to tighten the baca baca I guess(?) and these pieces look like aluminium.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Green

Not sure what you mean by fittings, but the baca baca was not made from aluminium. the metal is coppery in color and you can see green precipitates/stain still uncleaned in the pic which indicate that it is some form of copper alloy?

The baca baca will be from silver like by my own example, just use a silver cloth and you will see it.

Originally Posted by Green

However at the base of the baca baca I guess previous owner added little clamps to tighten the baca baca I guess(?) and these pieces look like aluminium.

This is the original construction, the aluminum bands go up the handle under the binding.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Green

Good idea about wraping up with cloth on the top part of the scabbard where the rattan bainding is now missing. But I believe the scabbard has the rattan all the way up to the cross piece originally.

I have people here that do rattan works (for chairs and such) who can easily put new rattan binding at this missing part - although I'm very sure they can not replicate the original exactly. The original looks v brittle now and was protected by previous owner with transparent tape which is peeling off now. I'm not sure if I should do this (new rattan binding for missing part) or just use cloth binding which is a lot easier or leave the thing as it is.

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I recieved the kris last week (see pics with purplish mat background). The cross piece decoration is very similar to some barongs. I did a little bit of amateurish cleaning with vineger (see pics with red background) . The blade showed 'pamor' and laminated(?). Is this usual for Kris? the okir look quite nice to me.

Nice later kris with very nice lamination and a good cleaning/staining job you have done.
Here you can see my example with integral gangya: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=kris

You can see also that F. de Luzon is correct by the cloth wrapping in up from the scabbard.

Regards,
Detlef