Two Badeks for comment

[Marcus]

These two little gems came from Oriental Arms. The one with the silver scabbard I got some time ago and the other was a recent acquisition. Artzi attributes them both to Java but Zonneveld indicates that bakeks were used on Sumatra, Madura and Sulawesi as well. Anyone able to offer a more specific association for either one of these?

[Sajen]

Hello Marcus,

sadly I have to correct Artzi again, the first one isn't a badik but a sekin from Sumatra, Padang Highlands, the "greneng" at the base, called a'jour, is the giveaway also the typical bird shaped handle is typical for this daggers. A very nice example! I still look byself for a dagger like this. Artzi has sold in the past already some of this daggers but has described them every time as badik. Search here in the forum with the keyword "sekin", you will find a few examples. But the name sekin is also used for a short sword from the Batak people, see T.W.O.T.I.A. from Albert G. van Zonneveld, page 119.

The dagger in down is indeed a badik and here I am with Artzi, I think that this one coming from Java. Also a nice example.

Regards,
Detlef

P.S.: forget, both pieces could need a little TLC

[Marcus]

Thanks for pointing that one out.
Marcus

[Sajen]

Regarging sekin look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sekin
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sekin
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sekin

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Marcus

Thanks for pointing that one out.
Marcus

You're welcome!

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Sajen

P.S.: forget, both pieces could need a little TLC

Hello Detlef,

What is "TLC?"

[Norman McCormick]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hello Detlef,

What is "TLC?"

Tender Loving Care

[Sajen]

Thank you Norman!

[A. G. Maisey]

Silver one is Jawa.

[Sajen]

Here a sekin which was sold recently by ebay. This one is without file work at the base.

[Maurice]

Here another sekin, 40.5 cm in length.
This sekin is now in the collection of a good friend.


Regards,
Maurice

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Artzi has sold in the past already some of this daggers but has described them every time as badik.

Sorry,

write down this in remembrance of an own search by Oriental Arms, but have found two examples by the keyword "sewar" instead of "badik". Sorry for any confusion.
It has been this both pieces.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Here another sekin, 40.5 cm in length.
This sekin is now in the collection of a good friend.

Hi Maurice,

unusual piece, never seen such a handle by a sekin. But I would call it as well as sekin, maby other origin?

Regards,
Detlef

[CharlesS]

TLC...on the silver one I would suggest at least an oiling of the blade to remove as much light rust as possible, and some ammonia and a soft brush to remove the unsightly old polish residue on the scabbard.

[Marcus]

http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=705

Detlef,
Do you agree?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

TLC...on the silver one I would suggest at least an oiling of the blade to remove as much light rust as possible, and some ammonia and a soft brush to remove the unsightly old polish residue on the scabbard.

Yes, this I have meant. And the handle of the sekin could use some oiling.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Marcus

http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=705

Detlef,
Do you agree?

Hi Marcus,

no, I think it's a little bit unusual sewar. Unusual because the file work at the base of the blade. Handle and scabbard are typical for a sewar.