Show us your Talismanic markings on keris blades

[Green]

David;

Belief attending to meaning of marks and other belief regarding the history and background of the keris is one thing and can be exteremely subjective.

but the marks on keris is a hard objective fact. If we can see it on the keris , it is certainly purposely made - for whatever reason. Marks are usually obvious (not always) and can not be mistaken from incidental defects to the blade.

[Green]

Here is another example of talismanic marking on my old pandai saras blade, which is not obvious at a cursory glance.

But if you put the blade at a certain angle in good light, you can see cross hatches on one side and parallel small hatches on the other side.

These are obviously made for whatever purposes that I am not sure of.

[David]

Originally Posted by Green

Here is another example of talismanic marking on my old pandai saras blade, which is not obvious at a cursory glance.

But if you put the blade at a certain angle in good light, you can see cross hatches on one side and parallel small hatches on the other side.

These are obviously made for whatever purposes that I am not sure of.

I'm sorry Green, but that just looks like tool markings to me. I'm not convinced at all that these markings have a talismanic intention.

[Green]

i did think the same when i first saw it, but a couple of people who know about patani keris that I showed this to, told me it's a mark done purposely.

they could be wrong...or right...

[A. G. Maisey]

They're made because somebody forgot to use alloy jaw covers on his vice. Even folded newspaper would have done.

Talismanic value is to remind one to take care playing with things they do not understand very well.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

They're made because somebody forgot to use alloy jaw covers on his vice. Even folded newspaper would have done.

Hello Green,

agree complete with Alan, this marks a more as typical for a vice.

Regards,
Detlef

[Green]

Ah... yes, Alan's explanation makes perfect sense for this blade! Many thanks. I'm learning new things everyday!


what about the first blade I showed...would that considered some form of artifact and not a purposely made marking?

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Green,

agree complete with Alan, this marks a more as typical for a vice.

Regards,
Detlef

If these diamond-shaped marks were imprinted by vice jaws they should be of equal size (unless the vice is very rustic) which does not seem to be the case from the pics: the marks look of larger size up the blade but this may be a perspective effect?
Regards