Spanish Blunderbuss Questions

[Fernando K]

Dana

It should be considered if it is not DEOP. In the work of LAVIN shows the stamp of Deop, and is abbreviated as Dop. Do not dustungue well the inscription

Fernando K

[Fernando K]

Dana

The D also contains the E. It was frequent in the military shells, to abbreviate space, this method

Fernando K

[fernando]

Bingo, Tocayo .
Although Joan Deop is neither one listed in Lavin's work, he is surely one of the same Ripoll family of lockmakers, as checked. One of his production was dated XVIII century.
But then, may we infer that, the other name associated (Y) in the lock, SALA, was his partner in the production of the discussed lock ... or was this his full name later in life ?
Also interesting to note that, the pistol made by his relative Llorenz Deop, as mentioned by Lavin, had an Oriental barrel.

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[fernando]

...Or is everybody forgering this family's famous name ?

http://armsandantiques.com/superb-18...oan-deop-ef992

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by fernando

Bingo, Tocayo .
Although Joan Deop is neither one listed in Lavin's work, he is surely one of the same Ripoll family of lockmakers, as checked. One of his production was dated XVIII century.
But then, may we infer that, the other name associated (Y) in the lock, SALA, was his partner in the production of the discussed lock ... or was this his full name later in life ?
Also interesting to note that, the pistol made by his relative Llorenz Deop, as mentioned by Lavin, had an Oriental barrel.

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The Deop lock pictured in your post actually is from our collection. I took the photo about five years ago.

http://weaponscollector.com/peresteva_c1730.php

It would be nice to able to believe the Blunder had any connection with the Deop family, but that seems fanciful.

[Fernando K]

Namesake

It can also be, although it is not frequent its use, the maternal surname, as it is used een in the judicial proceedings

Fernando K

[rickystl]

Hi Dana.

I keep looking at that barrel band trying to visualize a connection with the rest of the gun. LOL Still scratching my head. Hmmmm. The wide shape of the band, and the style of the half-moon very much resemble the Turkish equivalent. See photo of similar on one of my pistols. Possibly the owner of the gun resided in Spain, but was from Turkish heritage? Of course I'm just speculating here. To me, the gun looks entirely Spanish made. It's only the barrel band that is a real curiosity. But also adds an interesting mystery.

Something I forgot to mention earlier: The pan on the lock may not be brass. It may be iron but gold plated (fools gold) which was a fairly common feature for higher end private purchase guns. I can't tell by the photos here, but you might ask your friend if there is also a gold plated vent hole liner. Both pan and vent hole were often done at the same time. If it's not a brass pan, I would say that you could easily date this blunderbuss to about the Third Quarter of the 18th Century.

Rick

[Fernando K]

Dana

In page 251 of the work of Rmairo Larrañaga "Historical synthesis of the Basque armeria" is the following news

ANTON Mark of cannon (barrel maker) - 1850

Affectionately. Fernando K