After the Anglo-Sikh wars

Jens Nordlunde · 8th December 2016, 02:04 PM

Hi Miguel, you are welcome.
Research can be hard work, and usualy you hit the wall a few or many times, but try to look at it this way. Every time you research, wall or not, you learn something, maybe not what you are looking for - but you still learn something.
Have you tried to dig into the Ellora Caves? They were made from the 6th to the 10th century, and represents three different religions. The paintings and statues are said to represent all the weapons used in this period. Maybe you will find ssomething which will give you a pointer.
When I researched how old the katar is, I read about the caves, and saw that no katars were shown/mentioned, so I knew that the katar was not that old, or at least not used in this area at the time.
Good luck.
Jens

Kmaddock · 8th December 2016, 05:01 PM

Hi
At a recent auction I saw the following lot of chopped down Indian weaponry
(sold a week or so ago)
this is what it must have looked like in the smelting pots when all these weapons were being destroyed
regards
Ken

Jens Nordlunde · 8th December 2016, 06:16 PM

Ken, this is really a chock to me. I knew this was happening, but to see the weapons - what a pity.
I wonder how these 'weapons' got to Europe in this condition. Who would want to toutch them from they were sawn off?

Kmaddock · 8th December 2016, 06:30 PM

Hi Jens
I haves a few more pictures from the auction I will post tomorrow
Showing some more of the items
A tough picture to see such a brutal destruction.
I will pm you the auction house details if you like.
Regards
Ken

Jens Nordlunde · 8th December 2016, 07:07 PM

Hi Ken,
Please give me the details.
I know the auction house did not do this, but when you ask why was it done, one must remember that at the time they has tons of these weapons - and they did not know what to do with them. We would have known, but they did not.

Kmaddock · 9th December 2016, 11:26 AM

Hi Jens
Please see attached more images from the same auction, sorry about poor quality but they are just saved images from an on line catalogue.

These items sold for a lot of money so rest assured they are gone to a good home.

The items were sold in Scotland and the auction descriptor said the items came from Capenoch House, if that means anything to anyone.

It looks like the Bischwa, and the 2 Katars escaped the chop

Looking at images it looks as if the destruction was done a long time as there is a lot of corrosion on the cut ends.

It reminds me of the destruction of weapons after World War II where I have seen images of tanks driven over masses of guns.

We can only guess why and when it was done

Regards,

Ken

8th December 2016, 05:01 PM	#2
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi At a recent auction I saw the following lot of chopped down Indian weaponry (sold a week or so ago) this is what it must have looked like in the smelting pots when all these weapons were being destroyed regards Ken Attached Images

9th December 2016, 11:26 AM	#6
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi Jens Please see attached more images from the same auction, sorry about poor quality but they are just saved images from an on line catalogue. These items sold for a lot of money so rest assured they are gone to a good home. The items were sold in Scotland and the auction descriptor said the items came from Capenoch House, if that means anything to anyone. It looks like the Bischwa, and the 2 Katars escaped the chop Looking at images it looks as if the destruction was done a long time as there is a lot of corrosion on the cut ends. It reminds me of the destruction of weapons after World War II where I have seen images of tanks driven over masses of guns. We can only guess why and when it was done Regards, Ken Attached Images

8th December 2016, 02:04 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Miguel, you are welcome. Research can be hard work, and usualy you hit the wall a few or many times, but try to look at it this way. Every time you research, wall or not, you learn something, maybe not what you are looking for - but you still learn something. Have you tried to dig into the Ellora Caves? They were made from the 6th to the 10th century, and represents three different religions. The paintings and statues are said to represent all the weapons used in this period. Maybe you will find ssomething which will give you a pointer. When I researched how old the katar is, I read about the caves, and saw that no katars were shown/mentioned, so I knew that the katar was not that old, or at least not used in this area at the time. Good luck. Jens

8th December 2016, 06:16 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Ken, this is really a chock to me. I knew this was happening, but to see the weapons - what a pity. I wonder how these 'weapons' got to Europe in this condition. Who would want to toutch them from they were sawn off?

8th December 2016, 06:30 PM	#4
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi Jens I haves a few more pictures from the auction I will post tomorrow Showing some more of the items A tough picture to see such a brutal destruction. I will pm you the auction house details if you like. Regards Ken

8th December 2016, 07:07 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Ken, Please give me the details. I know the auction house did not do this, but when you ask why was it done, one must remember that at the time they has tons of these weapons - and they did not know what to do with them. We would have known, but they did not.