Another cup hilt rapier for id

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

...The large cup hilt or any heavily constructed hilt would be most inconvenient worn at the waist through a sash and these kinds of annoyances would likely have been attended to with less obtrusive carry methods. It seems like the scabbard carry configuration with such rapiers typically had the hilt outward and forward toward more horizontal plane

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So true Jim, so true. Such Tahlis (Portuguese talins) were a solution also used in other cultures in different periods and variable designs. But it seems as those alone, based to suspend the sword in a balanced manner, appaently did not solve the problem of the large guard 'harassment' ... be them bowl or disc shaped, as you well mention the M1796 problem; adding that, in most cases, the owner would have to lay his hand on the hilt to afford such (sort of) horizontal position.
Besides, being these suspension devices an extra expenditure, would have their used being extended to modest owners and basic soldiers ?
Attached a brief visit to these suspension variants, from A.V. B. Norman to portraits of Portuguese Kings, passing by blogs and movie stars, a digestive way to look at this issue.


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