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[GIO]

Hi Detlef,
many thanks for your kind answer.
After reading your post and the various references you have supplied, I found this subject not so simple to understand. I came nevertheless to two conclusions:
1. the hilt is not a distinctive characteristic,
2. when the blade is similar to that of a western sword, its origin is Lombok .
I hope to be not so far from the correct interpretation. If not please apologize: clearly I need some more experience in the field of Indonesian weapons.
Thanks again for your help.
Gio

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by GIO

1. the hilt is not a distinctive characteristic,
2. when the blade is similar to that of a western sword, its origin is Lombok .
I hope to be not so far from the correct interpretation. If not please apologize: clearly I need some more experience in the field of Indonesian weapons.

Hi Gio,

when you look again to the links I've provided in up you will see that the Lombok examples have all similar hilts, so to to your first statement I can't agree complete. For point two yes but for sure there will be exceptions.
But please keep in mind that this is just my humble opinion and like always I could be wrong.

Best regards,
Detlef

[GIO]

Hi Detlef,
here is my pedang. IMHO it is Sumatran. What is your opinion ?
Sorry for the bad pics and thanks in advance.
Gio

[kai]

Sorry, Gio, we do need better pics!

Especially close-ups of the hilt would be important (and also a full view of the scabbard). Any special features of the blade?

Since this is a very different beast, I'd suggest to open a new thread for your piece.

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by GIO

IMHO it is Sumatran. What is your opinion ?

Hi GIO,

look to the tripartite handle collar and as well the flow of the scabbard, very similar to the both examples from naga82 so I would think that your example is from Lombok. But like Kai I would like to see better pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

[Rick]

Here is an example within the context of culture.
Maybe there are some clues.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Rick

Here is an example within the context of culture.
Maybe there are some clues.

Hello Rick,

do you know from where exact this picture?

Regards,
Detlef

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Rick,

do you know from where exact this picture?

Regards,
Detlef

Hi Detlef; no I don't know where this picture was taken.
I thought that possibly the location could be suggested by the arms the men are carrying. We see a Piso Podang there and what looks like a Sumatra pedang; those spears; could they suggest a locale?

[GIO]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi GIO,

...... But like Kai I would like to see better pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

Thanks to a sunny day I hope these pictures are better..

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by GIO

Thanks to a sunny day I hope these pictures are better..

Hello Gio,

very nice pedang! Still would say it's a Lombok one but others may have a different opinion.

Regards,
Detlef