Ottoman breast plate for comments

TVV · 19th October 2016, 11:19 PM

On the second picture there is a vague arsenal stamp: St. Irene? If so, that would make it very Ottoman I guess.

Teodor

Oliver Pinchot · 19th October 2016, 11:28 PM

It would mean simply that it was deposited at the St. Irene's arsenal at one time or another; captured arms as well as Ottoman were stored there in profusion.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 19th October 2016, 11:56 PM

Forum has very little coverage of Armour and I thought to put that right. I would like to float a few items in broad support of this thread and see where that goes thus in the end produce a sizeable collection overall on the styles of armoured suits, footwear, helmets, shields, and also Horses armour to give a general picture of the subject... So in no particular order here goes;

Battara · 20th October 2016, 01:10 AM

I like it. I especially love Ottoman helmets! Thanks and zukran!

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th October 2016, 07:43 PM

From Wikepedia it statesQuote" The lobster-tailed pot helmet had an oriental origin, being derived from the Ottoman Turkish 'chichak' (Turkish - çiçek) helmet, which developed in the 16th century. It was adopted by the Christian states of Europe in the early 17th century. The chichak was almost identical to the later European helmets - it had a forward projecting peak, sliding bar nasal, cheekpieces and neck guard; only its tendency to have a conical rather than rounded skull was distinctive.[1] The European derivative of this helmet saw widespread use during the Thirty Years War when it became known as the zischägge, a Germanisation of the original Turkish name.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th October 2016, 07:46 PM

More Helmets Ottoman...

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th October 2016, 08:33 PM

The Ottomans used a special kind of armour called Krug; This was mirror armour and had talismanic beliefs attached to the idea that highly polished or Mirror armour could reflect the evil eye...arrows etc...

Oliver Pinchot · 20th October 2016, 09:42 PM

Note that the last helmet shown above is a modern copy

19th October 2016, 11:56 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Forum has very little coverage of Armour and I thought to put that right. I would like to float a few items in broad support of this thread and see where that goes thus in the end produce a sizeable collection overall on the styles of armoured suits, footwear, helmets, shields, and also Horses armour to give a general picture of the subject... So in no particular order here goes; Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 20th October 2016 at 12:39 AM.

20th October 2016, 07:43 PM	#5
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	From Wikepedia it statesQuote" The lobster-tailed pot helmet had an oriental origin, being derived from the Ottoman Turkish 'chichak' (Turkish - çiçek) helmet, which developed in the 16th century. It was adopted by the Christian states of Europe in the early 17th century. The chichak was almost identical to the later European helmets - it had a forward projecting peak, sliding bar nasal, cheekpieces and neck guard; only its tendency to have a conical rather than rounded skull was distinctive.[1] The European derivative of this helmet saw widespread use during the Thirty Years War when it became known as the zischägge, a Germanisation of the original Turkish name. Attached Images

20th October 2016, 07:46 PM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	More Helmets Ottoman... Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 20th October 2016 at 08:22 PM.

20th October 2016, 08:33 PM	#7
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	The Ottomans used a special kind of armour called Krug; This was mirror armour and had talismanic beliefs attached to the idea that highly polished or Mirror armour could reflect the evil eye...arrows etc... Attached Images

19th October 2016, 11:19 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,727	On the second picture there is a vague arsenal stamp: St. Irene? If so, that would make it very Ottoman I guess. Teodor

19th October 2016, 11:28 PM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	It would mean simply that it was deposited at the St. Irene's arsenal at one time or another; captured arms as well as Ottoman were stored there in profusion.

20th October 2016, 01:10 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,346	I like it. I especially love Ottoman helmets! Thanks and zukran!

20th October 2016, 09:42 PM	#8
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	Note that the last helmet shown above is a modern copy