Yataghan/ Interesting Scabbard

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 22nd September 2016, 07:28 AM

Your Yat blade has a date and it says Mohammed Maashaalah and a date which looks like 1391 or 1291....

though I cant see it clearly and as you rightly note Allah on the other picture. Today is 1437...

Battara · 22nd September 2016, 07:48 PM

Unless you have tested the material, to me the patina is looking more like low grade silver with a gold wash, which would actually make more sense and more traditional.

The "ears" and style make me think the piece is Balkan in manufacture.

A very nice piece.

Jerseyman · 22nd September 2016, 11:58 PM

Is it just my computer - or are there no photos of the entire blade and scabbard? Would it be possible to post some so we can see the whole thing?

Thanks.

rand · 23rd September 2016, 03:41 AM

Appreciate the feedback about this piece. The date is hard to read in the photo, it is 1241. The scabbard is definitely not a coin grade silver that you would expect to see, my best guess is a nickel alloy. Which is very unusual and surprising. Will take an overall photo tomorrow and post, but you cab see just about all parts of this sword now. The blade has a core twist, that too is hard to see in the photo's. The shirmani grip scales are in excellent condition, the silver inlay of the blade is an over lapping triangular punch most common on ottoman empire pieces.

Have just not come across a scabbard with this quality that wasn't silver before. The gold wash is very thick, more the sheen of what you would see with gold over copper. But its definitely not upper or silver comprising the scabbard.

Battara · 23rd September 2016, 06:20 AM

Jerseyman has a good point - we need pictures of the whole piece please.....

rand · 23rd September 2016, 01:59 PM

Entire sword and better photo of picture.

rand · 23rd September 2016, 02:03 PM

Writing on blade.

23rd September 2016, 03:41 AM	#4
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Scabbard & Stuff Appreciate the feedback about this piece. The date is hard to read in the photo, it is 1241. The scabbard is definitely not a coin grade silver that you would expect to see, my best guess is a nickel alloy. Which is very unusual and surprising. Will take an overall photo tomorrow and post, but you cab see just about all parts of this sword now. The blade has a core twist, that too is hard to see in the photo's. The shirmani grip scales are in excellent condition, the silver inlay of the blade is an over lapping triangular punch most common on ottoman empire pieces. Have just not come across a scabbard with this quality that wasn't silver before. The gold wash is very thick, more the sheen of what you would see with gold over copper. But its definitely not upper or silver comprising the scabbard. Attached Images

23rd September 2016, 01:59 PM	#6
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Entire Sword Photo & Writing Entire sword and better photo of picture. Attached Images Last edited by rand; 23rd September 2016 at 02:28 PM.

23rd September 2016, 02:03 PM	#7
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Improved writing photo Writing on blade. Attached Images Last edited by rand; 23rd September 2016 at 02:25 PM. Reason: Unable to load photo

22nd September 2016, 07:28 AM	#1
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Your Yat blade has a date and it says Mohammed Maashaalah and a date which looks like 1391 or 1291.... though I cant see it clearly and as you rightly note Allah on the other picture. Today is 1437...

22nd September 2016, 07:48 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Unless you have tested the material, to me the patina is looking more like low grade silver with a gold wash, which would actually make more sense and more traditional. The "ears" and style make me think the piece is Balkan in manufacture. A very nice piece.

22nd September 2016, 11:58 PM	#3
Jerseyman Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 97	Is it just my computer - or are there no photos of the entire blade and scabbard? Would it be possible to post some so we can see the whole thing? Thanks.

23rd September 2016, 06:20 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Jerseyman has a good point - we need pictures of the whole piece please.....