The Erbach Sword

Reventlov · 20th September 2016, 03:47 AM

A remarkable piece! Thank for sharing the story of its provenance. I do not recall seeing it on display at the Met when I visited last month, but perhaps I overlooked it... I did get a photo of the Italian sword mentioned; there is no image of it in the Met's online collection as yet.

Oliver Pinchot · 20th September 2016, 05:41 AM

Thank you for sharing this remarkable and well-provenance example, Ed.

fernando · 20th September 2016, 11:56 AM

Great sword, Ed

.

NeilUK · 24th September 2016, 12:20 AM

This superb sword is on display (or was 3 months ago), in a case in the middle of the gallery. Its label gives its provenance as Erbach castle but says that it is on loan from Laird & Kathleen Landmann, from 2013, not owned by the Met. Very odd, considering Ed's account of it above. The Landmanns are noted elsewhere in the gallery as both donors and lenders of other items of arms & armour, especially swords.
Neil

ulfberth · 24th September 2016, 07:45 AM

A magnificent sword , it seems more people claim ownership or previous ownership
that or the MET made a mistake

Ed · 8th October 2019, 01:13 PM

I am resurrecting this thread to add a bit more information.

Laird Landsmann did, indeed, purchase the sword from me. I didn't mention that detail because I was not sure how the Met was going to handle it, whether the loan would be Anonymous or not. Obviously it is public so I can amplify.

What happened was that I had two pieces that the Met wanted, a half armor and the sword. They bought the armor outright. Laird had bought and either donated or loaned a number of swords to the Met so he was approached to make the acquisition of the sword and then make the loan. My understanding is that it is on permanent loan but that info could be wrong. I suspect that the sword will be at the Met forever.

CSinTX · 9th October 2019, 03:53 AM

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

Do you have enough info/ pictures to share the half armor also?

20th September 2016, 03:47 AM	#1
Reventlov Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 138	A remarkable piece! Thank for sharing the story of its provenance. I do not recall seeing it on display at the Met when I visited last month, but perhaps I overlooked it... I did get a photo of the Italian sword mentioned; there is no image of it in the Met's online collection as yet. Attached Images

20th September 2016, 05:41 AM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 462	Thank you for sharing this remarkable and well-provenance example, Ed.

20th September 2016, 11:56 AM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Great sword, Ed .

24th September 2016, 12:20 AM	#4
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 126	This superb sword is on display (or was 3 months ago), in a case in the middle of the gallery. Its label gives its provenance as Erbach castle but says that it is on loan from Laird & Kathleen Landmann, from 2013, not owned by the Met. Very odd, considering Ed's account of it above. The Landmanns are noted elsewhere in the gallery as both donors and lenders of other items of arms & armour, especially swords. Neil

24th September 2016, 07:45 AM	#5
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 412	A magnificent sword , it seems more people claim ownership or previous ownership that or the MET made a mistake

8th October 2019, 01:13 PM	#6
Ed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256	I am resurrecting this thread to add a bit more information. Laird Landsmann did, indeed, purchase the sword from me. I didn't mention that detail because I was not sure how the Met was going to handle it, whether the loan would be Anonymous or not. Obviously it is public so I can amplify. What happened was that I had two pieces that the Met wanted, a half armor and the sword. They bought the armor outright. Laird had bought and either donated or loaned a number of swords to the Met so he was approached to make the acquisition of the sword and then make the loan. My understanding is that it is on permanent loan but that info could be wrong. I suspect that the sword will be at the Met forever.

9th October 2019, 03:53 AM	#7
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! Do you have enough info/ pictures to share the half armor also?