Plains stone axe for ?ing

Tim Simmons · 5th September 2016, 05:50 PM

I should really start a new thread with this piece as it is very unlikely to be from the northern plains.

Tim Simmons · 24th September 2016, 01:25 PM

I have it now 31 inches top to end of haft. Hide covered whipy flex stick. Coarse horse hair tassle, sewn hide with fine multi strand horse hair. It has a "fake"? collection number 17P on the stone. Is it a fake just because it is made of simple natural materials? Is it a fake because it looks aged? Is it a fake because people still knap stone? As a sculptor used to making "art work" I would be most impressed by somebody could get the inside spaces to look the way they do but that is just my opinion. It is not a big heavy weapon. All I can say is that if a warrior can running at me or at speed on horse back, and struck me with it. I would probably not be standing up again.

It may not be from the Northern Plains but saying that the plains are huge and there is no law that says all clubs are this or that form.

Anyway here it is. You can pay more for an obvious fantasy piece to hang with your dream catcher.

Tim Simmons · 23rd June 2023, 03:17 PM

https://collections.peabody.harvard....stone-thick-pi

Ian · 23rd June 2023, 07:02 PM

Tim,

I know very little about these axes, but perhaps a few comments on the condition of it. I'm not seeing any wear or tear to the leather. The edges are straight, with no tears or losses, and no holes or scuffing of the flat surfaces. I would expect to see such damage with a piece that had been used. It may never have been used, of course, but an old piece should still show some wear or minor damage, I think, just from the ravages of time.

Tim Simmons · 23rd June 2023, 08:06 PM

Rather like the piece in the last link.

Ian · 24th June 2023, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Rather like the piece in the last link.

Except that one had been in collectors' hands since 1925, and probably carefully preserved.

24th September 2016, 01:25 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I have it now 31 inches top to end of haft. Hide covered whipy flex stick. Coarse horse hair tassle, sewn hide with fine multi strand horse hair. It has a "fake"? collection number 17P on the stone. Is it a fake just because it is made of simple natural materials? Is it a fake because it looks aged? Is it a fake because people still knap stone? As a sculptor used to making "art work" I would be most impressed by somebody could get the inside spaces to look the way they do but that is just my opinion. It is not a big heavy weapon. All I can say is that if a warrior can running at me or at speed on horse back, and struck me with it. I would probably not be standing up again. It may not be from the Northern Plains but saying that the plains are huge and there is no law that says all clubs are this or that form. Anyway here it is. You can pay more for an obvious fantasy piece to hang with your dream catcher. Attached Images

5th September 2016, 05:50 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I should really start a new thread with this piece as it is very unlikely to be from the northern plains.

23rd June 2023, 03:17 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	https://collections.peabody.harvard....stone-thick-pi

23rd June 2023, 07:02 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Tim, I know very little about these axes, but perhaps a few comments on the condition of it. I'm not seeing any wear or tear to the leather. The edges are straight, with no tears or losses, and no holes or scuffing of the flat surfaces. I would expect to see such damage with a piece that had been used. It may never have been used, of course, but an old piece should still show some wear or minor damage, I think, just from the ravages of time.

23rd June 2023, 08:06 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Rather like the piece in the last link.