Classifying shashka--a serious discussion of typology

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by kamachate

Then, here is a pseudo shashka from me
The hilt is goat's horn. The iron expand of the blade goes until the end of the hilt, nearly have the shape of it. The places of the rivets can give a clue. The "ears" of the hilt are not as usual. The fuller is strange, and one can note the strange curve where the fuller begins. The blade narrows after the fuller, and slightly expands after it, as if there is a kind of "yalman". I have never seen any parallels of this one
Someone told me that this was "one of the earliest examples of shashkas", but I did not buy it (if only it was )
Best.

Very crude and basic, this was probably a very easy sword to make and it did the job, here is another crude example....both Afghan???

[ariel]

Both Caucasian, IMHO.

[kamachate]

Originally Posted by ariel

Both Caucasian, IMHO.

That's also what I think, but these cheap and bad examples are so small in numbers when compared to the majority... This seems interesting to me, for they "should" have been produced more than the rest (or am I wrong? I have seen many European blades, "gurda" marked ones or pieces with wonderful fullers. But these cheap and easy ones are harder to find

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by ariel

Both Caucasian, IMHO.

Ok, I am still trying to figure this out, what identifies these as Caucasian and not Afghan??

[Ian]

Estrch, I believe that Ariel's comments reflect what he laid out earlier in this thread and were summarized in the table in post #71. Ian

Originally Posted by estcrh

Ok, I am still trying to figure this out, what identifies these as Caucasian and not Afghan??

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Ian

Estrch, I believe that Ariel's comments reflect what he laid out earlier in this thread and were summarized in the table in post #71. Ian

Thanks Ian, I forgot about the bolster.

[kamachate]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Very crude and basic, this was probably a very easy sword to make and it did the job, here is another crude example....both Afghan???

Compared to the one I shared, yours is a piece of art