Luzon daga, wavy blade

[David]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

An etched fake damascus pattern for example.

I have only found a picture of faux wootz.

Roland, i am quite aware that people create fake patterns on blades such as this fake wootz that you show here. However, i have never seen anyone fake these simple lamination lines (usually it is more complicated patterns) which is probably why you had a hard time finding a photo depicting that.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by David

Roland, i am quite aware that people create fake patterns on blades such as this fake wootz that you show here. However, i have never seen anyone fake these simple lamination lines (usually it is more complicated patterns) which is probably why you had a hard time finding a photo depicting that.

Well, I have seen fake lamination lines on Chinese Jian swords, trying to immitate the "San Mai" (triple-steel) structure... but that was the only instance.

That's why I am pretty sure this is genuinely laminated.

Have a nice weekend!...

... even if we continue the debate

[David]

Well, the debate won't continue for long. Detlef will be sure as soon as it gets into his hands.
That said, i have never seen fake lamination on Filipino blades, at least not an obviously vintage example such as this. My guess is that Detlef didn't take too big a risk going for this on.

[Battara]

I'm with Ian on this one - First Republic era and Ilocano.

I too was watching this one...........

Congrats Detlef!

[Sajen]

First, thank you all for comment! I agree, it seems to be a clearly lamination what we can see by some pictures. Either this dagger coming from a well cared collection or it is in an outstanding good original condition. Would be interesting to know this since it would give us some understanding about if laminated blades from Luzon get etched originally.
Ian and Jose, thank you both very much for your age and origin guesses. Yes, I gree that this dagger coming from the First Republic area and could be an Ilocano piece. An other origin could be Cental Luzon like Ian suggest as well, a possibility also because the strong Spanish influence in the hilt.
I am happy that my age guess was most probable correct. I've searched in old threads but don't find a similar one for comparison, appearance and size. When someone would be able to show a similar one I would be very grateful.

Best regards,
Detlef

[Battara]

Here is mine, which says on the back "Ilocos Norte":

[carlos]

Congratulations Detlef! ! Is a great adquisition to your collection! !!
Is wish you enjoy it !
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Thanks for sharing
Carlos

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Here is mine, which says on the back "Ilocos Norte":

Yes, your very nice example which was once part of the Macao exhibition was the only example which shows some resemblance to my example. It is also with 52,5 cm somewhat longer as my one with 45 cm.
Thank you very much for post it again for comparison.

Best regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Here is mine, which says on the back "Ilocos Norte":

Here the description which was once given to your very nice example:


209.
Insurrection Katipunan Dagger
Ilokano tribe, Ilocos Norte, Northeastern Luzon Island. At base of blade there is an engraved triangle with a star at each corner and a sun with a face in the middle and worn remains of a banner with “Liberitad” (“Liberty” in Spanish). The triangular device is a later Katipunan symbol officially used during the Republic of the Philippines from 1898-1901. On the other side are engraved the words “Filipinas”, Philippines in Spanish (the country name in use at the turn of the century), “Ylocos Norte” (the province) and “Laoag” (the capital of Ilocos Norte). The hilt is made of carabao horn with a top and bottom ferrule made of bronze.
Note: this is a rarer type of dagger not often seen.
Period: 1898-1901
Overall: 52.5 cm
Blade: 38 cm
Hilt: 14.5 cm
Scabbard: none