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Old 4th August 2016, 07:10 PM   #1
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Default Inherited Yatagan

Hi All,
I recently inherited this Yataghan and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help with identification, dating, inscription translation, etc...
Thank you all in advance,
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Old 5th August 2016, 12:23 AM   #2
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To me this looks like a Turkish proper 19th century piece. Date will be better confirmed once some translates the Turkish in Arabic script. I will say though that I believe the Ottomans changed to Western Romanized script after 1928 under Kamal Ataturk.

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Old 11th August 2016, 06:57 PM   #3
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Thanks Battara. Does anyone else have any further information? A translation of the script would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 12th August 2016, 09:23 AM   #4
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The date is 1788, end of 18th c.
You should post a better photo of the inscription.
Anyway it's a nice yataghan but not a master piece.
I like the walrus grips.
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Old 12th August 2016, 02:06 PM   #5
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i twerked your images, got tired of craning my neck.
interesting 'tree of life'
scabbard under it does not look original later replacement?
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Old 17th August 2016, 01:30 PM   #6
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Thank you for the dating Kubur.
Yes kronckew, the scabbard is definitely not original. I appreciate the updated images.

Any translations available out there?

Thank you all for all the helpful information!
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Old 8th September 2016, 12:27 AM   #7
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Any one have any more information?
Thank you all in advance.
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Old 30th September 2016, 02:20 PM   #8
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Bump for a translation if it is out there.
Thank you
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Old 12th November 2016, 07:10 PM   #9
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Last bump try.
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Old 20th October 2019, 04:35 PM   #10
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A Turkish couplet:

bu bıçağın zarbından cümle düşman tarumar
her belayı def’ eder ol gani perverdigar


“All of the enemy are scattered at this knife’s blow,
That Self-Sufficient Sustainer (i.e. God) repels every catastrophe.”
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Old 20th October 2019, 04:51 PM   #11
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Sorry, I gave an incorrect reading, it should be:

A Turkish, couplet. For some reason the first words of each line are missing.

[bu bıçağın] zarbından cümle düşman tar-ü mar
[alır düşmandan] intikamını sanki misli zülfikar


“The entire enemy are scattered at [this knife’s] blow,
[It takes] its revenge on the enemy like Zülfikar.”

The maker’s mark reads “Ahmed”.

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Old 21st October 2019, 12:35 AM   #12
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Finally we got a member who can read old Turkish!

Kwiatek, you are more than welcome here!
Just do not leave this place because of too many requests to translate.
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Old 21st October 2019, 09:22 AM   #13
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Yes, knowledge is better when passed on, the more it is spread, the better we all get.
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