Do you have a Dzeferdar rifle?

estcrh · 19th July 2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Guys,
Finaly some photos of the animal...
Best,
Kubur

A nice example, if you have a chance can you take a close up picture of the lock?

rickystl · 23rd July 2016, 04:13 PM

Hi Kubur ! How have you been ? WOW!! That is a nice Dzeferdar. I really like all the fine brass work. Some observations I notice: Appears to be a full length, tapered octagon barrel, except for the neat monster head at the muzzle. Very cool !! Typical Balkan style lock. And the mechanical style barrel bands you often see on Tanchika long guns. That gun would clean up very nicely. But not really necessary. I really like it. Very nice addition to your collection. It seems they seldom are offered for sale. Great looking long gun. Thanks for Posting.

Yes, I second Estcrh's request. Please post a couple more pics of the lock when you have a chance.
Rick

Kubur · 23rd July 2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl

Typical Balkan style lock. That gun would clean up very nicely.
Rick

Hi Rick,

Thank you
Yes unfortunatly one little piece of the lock is broken but still working on the two positions. Actualy I already spent few hours to clean it, it was completly black originaly.
Rick, i need your help on this post, it's an intriguing mystery
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21690
Best,
Kubur

rickystl · 23rd July 2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

A nice example, if you have a chance can you take a close up picture of the lock?

Hi Estcrh.
That is the most common style miquelet lock I see on Balkan made guns. Except for the size for long gun or pistol, the locks all seem to be designed almost identical. Notice the pic you posted above, showing the different style of long guns, but all/most using the same style Balkan lock.
I have an Albanian pistol I shoot using the same lock. I found it well designed, strong, and very reliable. It would seem the owners of these guns back in the Period had the same results. Because you see them on so many guns.
Here is the same lock from my collection. It is in unused condition. I'll bet the lock on Kubur's gun looks almost identical. Interesting such a wide usage of the same lock.
Rick.

estcrh · 23rd July 2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Estcrh.
That is the most common style miquelet lock I see on Balkan made guns. Except for the size for long gun or pistol, the locks all seem to be designed almost identical. Notice the pic you posted above, showing the different style of long guns, but all/most using the same style Balkan lock.
I have an Albanian pistol I shoot using the same lock. I found it well designed, strong, and very reliable. It would seem the owners of these guns back in the Period had the same results. Because you see them on so many guns.
Here is the same lock from my collection. It is in unused condition. I'll bet the lock on Kubur's gun looks almost identical. Interesting such a wide usage of the same lock.
Rick.

Rick, having pictures of the different types of locks is very helpful.

Kubur · 23rd July 2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

Rick, having pictures of the different types of locks is very helpful.

Yes you are right.
I will scan and post some drawings with all the same kind of locks that I have in my books later (Russian and French mostly)
Best,

rickystl · 1st August 2016, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Yes you are right.
I will scan and post some drawings with all the same kind of locks that I have in my books later (Russian and French mostly)
Best,

Here is a close-up of the Balkan made Boyliya style lock, sometimes called a Bulgarian lock. This one is well used with some of it's brass overlay loose and missing. But it is still in working order and gives you a good idea.
Rick

Ivo · 17th December 2016, 07:50 AM

Hello, some pictures of my favorite ...

Regards,

Ivo

rickystl · 18th December 2016, 04:47 PM

Hi Ivo.

That's a very nice piece. I don't blame you for it being one of your favorites. I especially like the barrel and barrel bands on this one. You often see this "style" of barrel band on Albanian and Greek long guns also. And note the lock is virtually identical to the Balkan made lock I posted earlier above. Again, there seems to have been wide spread use for this specific style of miquelet lock. Nice gun.

Rick

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23rd July 2016, 04:13 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Kubur ! How have you been ? WOW!! That is a nice Dzeferdar. I really like all the fine brass work. Some observations I notice: Appears to be a full length, tapered octagon barrel, except for the neat monster head at the muzzle. Very cool !! Typical Balkan style lock. And the mechanical style barrel bands you often see on Tanchika long guns. That gun would clean up very nicely. But not really necessary. I really like it. Very nice addition to your collection. It seems they seldom are offered for sale. Great looking long gun. Thanks for Posting. Yes, I second Estcrh's request. Please post a couple more pics of the lock when you have a chance. Rick

18th December 2016, 04:47 PM	#9
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Ivo. That's a very nice piece. I don't blame you for it being one of your favorites. I especially like the barrel and barrel bands on this one. You often see this "style" of barrel band on Albanian and Greek long guns also. And note the lock is virtually identical to the Balkan made lock I posted earlier above. Again, there seems to have been wide spread use for this specific style of miquelet lock. Nice gun. Rick