Yataghan for translation and comment

mariusgmioc · 2nd July 2016, 06:15 PM

I think that without a clear written location or smith's signature, it is close to impossible to accurately locate the place of manufacture since many manufacturing centers shared the same know-how and tradition and smiths and skills traveled frequently from center to center within the Ottoman Empire.

mariusgmioc · 4th July 2016, 02:04 PM

Still no translation?

mariusgmioc · 9th July 2016, 09:26 AM

Hello Zifir,

Can you please help me with this one as well?

Best regards,

Marius Mioc

Miguel · 12th July 2016, 07:34 PM

Hi Marius,

Sorry for late reply but have had severe computer problems and system will not accept replies from iPad.

Cant help with translation but would like to congratulate you on owning such a beautiful piece, wonderful. I think it may be Turkish. I read somewhere that the warriors threw away their yagtahan scabbards when they went into battle, collecting them later if they were victorious, I don't think that they would throw this scabbard away which leads me to think that it is a status or dress item but whatever it is a really beautiful piece.
Regards
Miguel

mariusgmioc · 13th July 2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi Marius,

Sorry for late reply but have had severe computer problems and system will not accept replies from iPad.

Cant help with translation but would like to congratulate you on owning such a beautiful piece, wonderful. I think it may be Turkish. I read somewhere that the warriors threw away their yagtahan scabbards when they went into battle, collecting them later if they were victorious, I don't think that they would throw this scabbard away which leads me to think that it is a status or dress item but whatever it is a really beautiful piece.
Regards
Miguel

Thank you for your appreciation... but I will redirect it towards the master swordsmith who made such a masterpiece!

Miguel · 14th July 2016, 07:15 PM

Well said Marius. Iwas wondering if you have had a chance to research the Yataghan in your new book and if so have you found if it is Balkan or not?
Regards
Miguel

mariusgmioc · 15th July 2016, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

Well said Marius. Iwas wondering if you have had a chance to research the Yataghan in your new book and if so have you found if it is Balkan or not?
Regards
Miguel

Hello Miguel,

Based on comparisons with some pieces in Elgood's book, it may be from Crete. However, I am not sure about that because of other distinctive characteristics. Moreover, I am not sure that Elgood's geographical attribution can be considered for reference as it appears to be based more on anectodal evidence.

To me is quite clear that styles and crafts traveled throughout the Ottoman empire and it may be impossible to accurately locate a point of origin.

2nd July 2016, 06:15 PM	#1
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	I think that without a clear written location or smith's signature, it is close to impossible to accurately locate the place of manufacture since many manufacturing centers shared the same know-how and tradition and smiths and skills traveled frequently from center to center within the Ottoman Empire. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 3rd July 2016 at 09:22 AM.

4th July 2016, 02:04 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	Still no translation?

9th July 2016, 09:26 AM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	Hello Zifir, Can you please help me with this one as well? Best regards, Marius Mioc

12th July 2016, 07:34 PM	#4
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	Hi Marius, Sorry for late reply but have had severe computer problems and system will not accept replies from iPad. Cant help with translation but would like to congratulate you on owning such a beautiful piece, wonderful. I think it may be Turkish. I read somewhere that the warriors threw away their yagtahan scabbards when they went into battle, collecting them later if they were victorious, I don't think that they would throw this scabbard away which leads me to think that it is a status or dress item but whatever it is a really beautiful piece. Regards Miguel

14th July 2016, 07:15 PM	#6
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	Well said Marius. Iwas wondering if you have had a chance to research the Yataghan in your new book and if so have you found if it is Balkan or not? Regards Miguel