Afghan Jazail

Kubur · 14th May 2016, 04:41 PM

Hi Rick,
Nice good Jazail, no inlays missing and the lock is really cool.
I have to say that these guns are so common in the UK that sellers don't give you the change instead they give you a Jazail...not like you...again very good lock...

Jim McDougall · 14th May 2016, 05:21 PM

great pics of the mkgs

thanx

rickystl · 14th May 2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

great pics of the mkgs

thanx

Hi Jim.
Yes, the markings on this one are real clear. Almost no fading. I'll take the lock off and see if I can find some more marks.
Rick.

Jim McDougall · 14th May 2016, 08:42 PM

Thanks Rick!
On the European forum we are discussing EIC markings, and my thread is seeking any sword BLADES which are marked to the EIC. There has been a great deal of attention toward the outstanding work by David Harding 1997-99, "Small Arms of the East India Company". This is a huge 4 volume set and accordingly horrendously expensive.

kahnjar1 · 14th May 2016, 09:48 PM

As previously commented a VERY nice piece.

Stu

rickystl · 14th May 2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Thanks Rick!
On the European forum we are discussing EIC markings, and my thread is seeking any sword BLADES which are marked to the EIC. There has been a great deal of attention toward the outstanding work by David Harding 1997-99, "Small Arms of the East India Company". This is a huge 4 volume set and accordingly horrendously expensive.

Hi Jim.
While not usually a blade guy, I've been following your Thread. And I noticed the lock on this gun dated 1803 fits the guidelines you posted.
An interesting coincidence was while I was corresponding with the gunsmith about the barrel, he asked me if I had a copy of Hardings "Introduction to EIC Small Arms" as per Richard's quote. He said to buy it - if you can find it!! I've Googled, but any reference says: not available, sold out, etc.
Rick

Berkley · 15th May 2016, 01:39 AM

Rick,
Congratulations on a fine acquisition. Until you can find your own copy of Harding, here's an excerpt which indeed confirms all the correct details on your lock.

rickystl · 15th May 2016, 02:11 PM

Hi Berkley.
Thanks so much for the pic. Much appreciated. One item that does not really appear in my photos is the inspector's mark below the pan. But it is there. It's the same tiny Crown, but the mark below the Crown I can't quite make out. Looks like a circle with a dot in the center. But I think it will be clear once the lock is cleaned. Thanks again for your assistance.
Rick.

rickystl · 14th May 2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Rick,
Nice good Jazail, no inlays missing and the lock is really cool.
I have to say that these guns are so common in the UK that sellers don't give you the change instead they give you a Jazail...not like you...again very good lock...

Hi Kubur.
LOL!!

Actually, from an historical standpoint, I'm not surprised that a lot of these ended up in the UK. There are quite a few in the States. But it's often difficult to locate one in better condition. And yes, a nice authentic Trade lock versus a locally made copy. That's one of the reasons I bought this one.
Rick.

15th May 2016, 01:39 AM	#7
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	Rick, Congratulations on a fine acquisition. Until you can find your own copy of Harding, here's an excerpt which indeed confirms all the correct details on your lock. Attached Images

14th May 2016, 04:41 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rick, Nice good Jazail, no inlays missing and the lock is really cool. I have to say that these guns are so common in the UK that sellers don't give you the change instead they give you a Jazail...not like you...again very good lock...

14th May 2016, 05:21 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,189	great pics of the mkgs thanx

14th May 2016, 08:42 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,189	Thanks Rick! On the European forum we are discussing EIC markings, and my thread is seeking any sword BLADES which are marked to the EIC. There has been a great deal of attention toward the outstanding work by David Harding 1997-99, "Small Arms of the East India Company". This is a huge 4 volume set and accordingly horrendously expensive.

14th May 2016, 09:48 PM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	As previously commented a VERY nice piece. Stu

15th May 2016, 02:11 PM	#8
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,629	Hi Berkley. Thanks so much for the pic. Much appreciated. One item that does not really appear in my photos is the inspector's mark below the pan. But it is there. It's the same tiny Crown, but the mark below the Crown I can't quite make out. Looks like a circle with a dot in the center. But I think it will be clear once the lock is cleaned. Thanks again for your assistance. Rick.