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Old 3rd May 2016, 08:51 AM   #1
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I dont think the auction house can/may give you a CITES certificate, but you will have to ask them how to get one.

Be careful with the shipping firms, as some which used to handle weapons dont any more, as they have been bought of other shipping firms not handeling weapons.
Thanks Jens,will ask them what they could do,if they cannot help then will have to get something sorted or pay them their commission and not go ahead as it will complicate the import into New Zealand
kind regards Rajesh
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Old 3rd May 2016, 02:49 PM   #2
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Khanjar 1,
I don't think the law in the UK has changed yet, this is a proposed Bill that is going through Parliament. It should, in theory, make life easier for the shippers of antiques, as these will be more clearly defined; but tighten up the rules on de-activated firearms to the extent most current de-activation will not meet the required citeria.

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I suspect many courier or parcel services in the UK try to avoid 'firearms' even if antique, because they are scared of unforeseen problems at the other end or in transit, and being left holding a very unpopular baby. Possibly the same in Switzerland. You may find it easier, if not cheaper, if you can find a NZ shipping agent, who the exporter or his agent can trust, to act for you.

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Old 3rd May 2016, 04:19 PM   #3
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Even with ivory you don't care, look

The decree of July 29th, 2005 so modified 6 different orders, integrating henceforth that " The ban on transport, on hawking, on use, on putting on sale, on sale or on purchase, planned to articles (...) Does not apply to dating specimens of before June 1st, 1947, since their natural raw state was widely modified to make it jewels, decorative, artistic or utilitarian objects, or musical instruments, since they can be used without being sculptured, decorated or transforming more and since the invoice or the certificate of transfer mentions their age. "

I strongly advise you to ship directly from Swiss, do not go through UK!!
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Old 3rd May 2016, 04:59 PM   #4
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Very nice acquisition. While I'm more of a sword person, I can appreciate older firearms and moukalas like that are truly a piece of beauty. What are the measurements of that piece? And also, what's the name of the auction house?
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Old 11th May 2016, 10:48 AM   #5
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Even with ivory you don't care, look

The decree of July 29th, 2005 so modified 6 different orders, integrating henceforth that " The ban on transport, on hawking, on use, on putting on sale, on sale or on purchase, planned to articles (...) Does not apply to dating specimens of before June 1st, 1947, since their natural raw state was widely modified to make it jewels, decorative, artistic or utilitarian objects, or musical instruments, since they can be used without being sculptured, decorated or transforming more and since the invoice or the certificate of transfer mentions their age. "

I strongly advise you to ship directly from Swiss, do not go through UK!!
THANKS KUBUR GOO ADVICE,REGARDS RAJESH
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Old 11th May 2016, 10:46 AM   #6
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Khanjar 1,
I don't think the law in the UK has changed yet, this is a proposed Bill that is going through Parliament. It should, in theory, make life easier for the shippers of antiques, as these will be more clearly defined; but tighten up the rules on de-activated firearms to the extent most current de-activation will not meet the required citeria.

Bandook,
I suspect many courier or parcel services in the UK try to avoid 'firearms' even if antique, because they are scared of unforeseen problems at the other end or in transit, and being left holding a very unpopular baby. Possibly the same in Switzerland. You may find it easier, if not cheaper, if you can find a NZ shipping agent, who the exporter or his agent can trust, to act for you.

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THANKS RICHARD I WON THIS GUN FOR 70 CHF [SWISS FRANCS] PLUS COMM ,STRANGELY THE AUCTION HOUSE HAS STILL NOT SENT ME AN INVOICE AND GUESS THEY REALIZED ITS SOLD CHEAP SO THEY ARE ALSO WAITING TO TEST MY PATIENCE,I SHALL WAIT AND CONTACT CITES AND ALSO SHIPPING GUYS AS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS LOVELY GUN TO MY COLLECTION,WITHOUT THE HEADACHE IF POSSIBLE,BUT MEMBERS HAVE MADE ME AWARE ITS NOT GOING TO BE EASY
MANY THANKS FOR YOUR INPUTS
REGARDS RAJESH
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