2 Panabas and a Panaba-sauris for comment

Battara · 24th April 2016, 07:30 PM

Back then Moros did have ceremonial weapons, functional, but ceremonial. If these fancy pieces are substantial in manufacture, then I would agree that they are probably not quickly made tourist pieces, but for ceremonys and ritual use.

Ian · 25th April 2016, 03:22 PM

Very nice collection with some unusual examples.

The smallest one looks like a tabas, which is the agricultural version of a panabas, that is used like an axe to cut down small trees, chop firewood, lop branches, etc.--the forging on this blade is also cruder than the others.

Ian

drac2k · 25th April 2016, 06:01 PM

Thank you ; I tend to agree with you.It has the look and the hard wear that a agricultural tool would have.

ariel · 25th April 2016, 07:10 PM

Don't you think that the two "fancy" ones have a strong resemblance to Kampilan?

Battara · 25th April 2016, 08:14 PM

Ian, do you think all small tapas are agricultural tools?

Ian · 25th April 2016, 10:31 PM

Hi Jose:

The tabas I have seen being used for agriculture have all been on the small side. Some have had quite slim blades as well. I don't know whether the agricultural implements are always smaller than a "combat" panabas, but that could be the case.

Ian

drac2k · 30th April 2016, 02:48 PM

Marcus just posted pictures of weapons from the Malaysian National Museum and I noticed that in two of the frames, a panabas like item similar to the two I posted, that I wasn't quite sure of the origins or if they were in fact, panabas .I questioned what the item was and Gustav responded that it was in fact a parang ginah.I must confess that there is a striking similarity to some of the examples I looked up and if not the origin of these weapons, it appears that they were heavily influenced by them.
Does anyone else see the connection, or am I clutching at straws?

24th April 2016, 07:30 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Back then Moros did have ceremonial weapons, functional, but ceremonial. If these fancy pieces are substantial in manufacture, then I would agree that they are probably not quickly made tourist pieces, but for ceremonys and ritual use.

25th April 2016, 03:22 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Very nice collection with some unusual examples. The smallest one looks like a tabas, which is the agricultural version of a panabas, that is used like an axe to cut down small trees, chop firewood, lop branches, etc.--the forging on this blade is also cruder than the others. Ian

25th April 2016, 06:01 PM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Thank you ; I tend to agree with you.It has the look and the hard wear that a agricultural tool would have.

25th April 2016, 07:10 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Don't you think that the two "fancy" ones have a strong resemblance to Kampilan?

25th April 2016, 08:14 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Ian, do you think all small tapas are agricultural tools?

25th April 2016, 10:31 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Hi Jose: The tabas I have seen being used for agriculture have all been on the small side. Some have had quite slim blades as well. I don't know whether the agricultural implements are always smaller than a "combat" panabas, but that could be the case. Ian

30th April 2016, 02:48 PM	#7
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Marcus just posted pictures of weapons from the Malaysian National Museum and I noticed that in two of the frames, a panabas like item similar to the two I posted, that I wasn't quite sure of the origins or if they were in fact, panabas .I questioned what the item was and Gustav responded that it was in fact a parang ginah.I must confess that there is a striking similarity to some of the examples I looked up and if not the origin of these weapons, it appears that they were heavily influenced by them. Does anyone else see the connection, or am I clutching at straws?