2 Panabas and a Panaba-sauris for comment

Sajen · 23rd April 2016, 10:33 AM

Wow, what a great collection of panabas! Never before I've seen this type with this sort of decoration near the ferrule.

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 23rd April 2016, 12:51 PM

Thank you.The first one I acquired many years ago when e-way first came into existence ; the over one I purchased from Erik's Edge(Erik is a great guy), 2 or 3 years ago.Those are the only 2 examples that I have seen in my limited experience.
I think they could qualify as panabas, but I am not sure.

Sajen · 23rd April 2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

I think they could qualify as panabas, but I am not sure.

I am also not sure but they look like this. Would be interesting what the experts have to say.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 23rd April 2016, 04:31 PM

Personally I find some difficulty with these top 2 being functional panabas. They seem more ceremonial, art forms, or even later fantasy versions (?).

drac2k · 23rd April 2016, 05:27 PM

Ceremonial, quite possibly, but fantasy items, I don't think so.I have had ceremonial and tourist panabas before and they are usually are quite thin, cut out of metal, rather than forged, and dull.These two are well balanced, a considerable about of metal was used (1/4" thick at the base),hand forged, very sharp, and as my favorite quote from TV goes............"they will cut!"In most cases, when a fantasy piece is made, you usually see only one or many;also, even though they are of a similar style the are distinctly different, so I would infer they were made by a different person.
***disclaimer; this is just my opinion, no more valid than anyone else's opinion which I have asked for and appreciate , so please do not get mad at me as I am not mad at you.

Sajen · 23rd April 2016, 09:46 PM

I also think that both show age (patina) and well forged blades. Ceremonial maybe yes but don't think that this are fantasy swords. But like said, I am far away to be an expert.

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 23rd April 2016, 11:18 PM

I could be completely wrong, but the two pieces with the decorative metalwork at the junction of blade and hilt remind me of pieces I have seen that were attributed to the peoples of the Northern Luzon Cordillera. I do not believe that these would have been made strictly for the tourist market if for no other reason than that their size alone would limit their sales to most tourist. This of course is JMHO. Hopefully some of our Filipino experts will see this and offer their opinions on these two very interesting items.

Best,
Robert

23rd April 2016, 10:33 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,270	Wow, what a great collection of panabas! Never before I've seen this type with this sort of decoration near the ferrule. Regards, Detlef

23rd April 2016, 12:51 PM	#2
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Thank you.The first one I acquired many years ago when e-way first came into existence ; the over one I purchased from Erik's Edge(Erik is a great guy), 2 or 3 years ago.Those are the only 2 examples that I have seen in my limited experience. I think they could qualify as panabas, but I am not sure.

23rd April 2016, 04:31 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Personally I find some difficulty with these top 2 being functional panabas. They seem more ceremonial, art forms, or even later fantasy versions (?).

23rd April 2016, 05:27 PM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Ceremonial, quite possibly, but fantasy items, I don't think so.I have had ceremonial and tourist panabas before and they are usually are quite thin, cut out of metal, rather than forged, and dull.These two are well balanced, a considerable about of metal was used (1/4" thick at the base),hand forged, very sharp, and as my favorite quote from TV goes............"they will cut!"In most cases, when a fantasy piece is made, you usually see only one or many;also, even though they are of a similar style the are distinctly different, so I would infer they were made by a different person. ***disclaimer; this is just my opinion, no more valid than anyone else's opinion which I have asked for and appreciate , so please do not get mad at me as I am not mad at you.

23rd April 2016, 09:46 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,270	I also think that both show age (patina) and well forged blades. Ceremonial maybe yes but don't think that this are fantasy swords. But like said, I am far away to be an expert. Regards, Detlef

23rd April 2016, 11:18 PM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I could be completely wrong, but the two pieces with the decorative metalwork at the junction of blade and hilt remind me of pieces I have seen that were attributed to the peoples of the Northern Luzon Cordillera. I do not believe that these would have been made strictly for the tourist market if for no other reason than that their size alone would limit their sales to most tourist. This of course is JMHO. Hopefully some of our Filipino experts will see this and offer their opinions on these two very interesting items. Best, Robert