Miniature Keris Sajen

Sajen · 18th April 2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

My guess is that what you have shown us is more likely to have been made as purely talismanic keris, rather than as an offering keris.

Hello Alan,

could it be that the blade is reshaped?

Regards,
Detlef

mariusgmioc · 18th April 2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Alan,

could it be that the blade is reshaped?

Regards,
Detlef

Very interesting question.

But if yes, then why and how (as I cannot see any signs of post-processing) - not that I am an expert in this.

Sajen · 18th April 2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Very interesting question.

But if yes, then why and how (as I cannot see any signs of post-processing) - not that I am an expert in this.

Hello Marius,

here a keris sajen from my own collection, I get it very rusted with this eaten blade tip. It get cleaned with lemon acid and received a warangan. I know that it is common in Indonesia to reshape such rusted blades. It could happened by your keris sajen. Just a guess!

So my question to Alan.
Sorry for the poor pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

mariusgmioc · 18th April 2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Marius,

here a keris sajen from my own collection, I get it very rusted with this eaten blade tip. It get cleaned with lemon acid and received a warangan. I know that it is common in Indonesia to reshape such rusted blades. It could happened by your keris sajen. Just a guess!

So my question to Alan.
Sorry for the poor pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

Hello Detlef,

Yes, I see your point. Thank you for this very interesting information!

A. G. Maisey · 18th April 2016, 10:21 PM

I don't know Detlef, in my book, anything is possible, the form of Marius' keris seems to me to be vaguely Bugis, maybe it was made like this in the first place, or as you suggest, somewhere, some time, somebody took a file to it.

Who knows?

mariusgmioc · 19th April 2016, 01:53 PM

Hello Sajen an Alan,

Thank you for this very interesting discussion!

If it is resahped, it definitely isn't simply mechacanically cut to shape as the blade bears absolutely no traces of mechanical machining. It appears formed like this from hot iron.

18th April 2016, 10:21 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	I don't know Detlef, in my book, anything is possible, the form of Marius' keris seems to me to be vaguely Bugis, maybe it was made like this in the first place, or as you suggest, somewhere, some time, somebody took a file to it. Who knows?

19th April 2016, 01:53 PM	#6
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	Hello Sajen an Alan, Thank you for this very interesting discussion! If it is resahped, it definitely isn't simply mechacanically cut to shape as the blade bears absolutely no traces of mechanical machining. It appears formed like this from hot iron.