Flintlock 4 Cylinder Revolver For Comment

[Pukka Bundook]

Good morning Dana,

A very interesting old pistol!


I think this pistol is Much older than the Collier, and going by the shape of the lock and cock, plus the butt-stock, I would say late 17th century to very early 18th century.

Such pistols and carbines were produced from about 1680 to 1700.
Sometimes these were snaphaunce locks, which in a revolver was a little easier to make, as each cylinder had its own pan and sliding cover.

There are two of these in W Keith Neal & D Back's book, GBG 1540 -1740.
Both have 8 -shot cylinders.

The little re-enforce above the pan screw isn't seen much after about 1720, and hardly at all by 1730.
It's a lovely old pistol!

Kind regards,
Richard.

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

I suppose the pan covers are dovetailed into the cylinder, and thereby help to eliminate cross -fire.
Do the pan-covers slide forward? Very hard to see how it works from the photos.

I haven't dissembled the weapon, but there is a single touch hole which is behind the external visible cylinder. I assume the cylinder dovetails behind this area. Maybe I'll take the pistol apart someday.

I've posted some larger photos on my Antique Weapons site at Google+. You can use the magnifying glass there to get a closer look at the lock.

https://plus.google.com/+DanaWilliams/posts/3Aj5AFbMSNr

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

I think this pistol is Much older than the Collier, and going by the shape of the lock and cock, plus the butt-stock, I would say late 17th century to very early 18th century.

I speculate that the butt-stock came from an earlier weapon, possibly early 18th century.

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Such pistols and carbines were produced from about 1680 to 1700.
Sometimes these were snaphaunce locks, which in a revolver was a little easier to make, as each cylinder had its own pan and sliding cover.

I should have mentioned those very early snaphaunce style revolvers. There are some good photos here:

https://thornews.com/2014/03/27/the-...revolver-1597/

[Pukka Bundook]

Dana,

I had to edit my post regarding the pan-covers, as I saw my mistake when I looked at it again.
No sliding covers! The barrel style also says late 17th C.

I think it is earlier than you think, but that is just my opinion. :-)

Kind regards,
Richard.

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

I think it is earlier than you think, but that is just my opinion. :-)
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Earlier would be good, but I try not to fool myself by being overly optimistic.

[Pukka Bundook]

Caution is always a good thing Dana.

One thing I should have said, is that I have never seen one with a wooden fore-end before.
Very original!

R.

[fernando]

If you don't mind me hijacking your thread Dana, i would like to post a Portuguese shoulder gun, said to be from the first half 17th. century, with a rotating cylinder system. It is part of a private collection in exhibition at the Oporto Military Museum; or it was, as the last time i have been there, i didn't see it; Museums can be mysterious some times .
The pictures are horrible and i don't have full info about its functioning, but it appears that some of the details are ingenious.

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[dana_w]

Originally Posted by fernando

If you don't mind me hijacking your thread Dana, i would like to post a Portuguese shoulder gun, said to be from the first half 17th
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Very nice Fernando. Thanks for posting.