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Old 2nd April 2016, 09:15 PM   #1
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Hi Stu,

Thanks for your interesting comments and information, it is fascinating what unfolds about items posted for comment and info when knowledgeable members kindly give their time to pass on their knowledge.

I wonder how the scabbard got to India and whether the dagger was made for an Indian who liked the scabbard or an Arab who liked the pistol grip style of handle.? Whoever made the knife and handle must have been very skilled and in my opinion did a perfect job. For interest I obtained this piece in the early 70`s in a part exchange deal with money as well for my Bayonet collection at the time it being the first Ethno weapon I purchased.
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Hi Miguel,
The contact between India and the Arabian peninsula goes back a very long time in terms of trade etc so the flow of items went both ways. This is probably one of those happenings. Interesting that you have had the knife since the 70s. I had been thinking a very late mating of the two parts.
Re the blade.....can you tell if it is forged or is it a "sandwich" blade (made in two parts and joined together)?
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The contact between India and the Arabian peninsula goes back a very long time in terms of trade etc so the flow of items went both ways. This is probably one of those happenings. Interesting that you have had the knife since the 70s. I had been thinking a very late mating of the two parts.
Re the blade.....can you tell if it is forged or is it a "sandwich" blade (made in two parts and joined together)?
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Hi Stu,

I would say that the blade is forged not sandwich construction also on comparison with my other Arab Khanjars and Yemeni Jambiya that the blade is Arab and not Indian made but not being an expert I could be wrong as I said I have had it in my possession for the best part of 45 years. Thanks again for your interest and comments.
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Old 5th April 2016, 08:32 PM   #3
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Hi Stu,

I would say that the blade is forged not sandwich construction also on comparison with my other Arab Khanjars and Yemeni Jambiya that the blade is Arab and not Indian made but not being an expert I could be wrong as I said I have had it in my possession for the best part of 45 years. Thanks again for your interest and comments.
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....so the assumption here, and it is only an assumption, is that what you have is likely an original scabbard and blade, with a new handle fitted at some stage. Whatever the outcome, it is a nice and very interesting piece showing cross cultural traits.
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Old 6th April 2016, 07:00 PM   #4
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....so the assumption here, and it is only an assumption, is that what you have is likely an original scabbard and blade, with a new handle fitted at some stage. Whatever the outcome, it is a nice and very interesting piece showing cross cultural traits.
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Hi Stu,
I could not have put it better myself. I am hoping that A. ainakkas comes back with a translation that might shed some more light on the scabbard.
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Old 6th April 2016, 07:06 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

interesting piece. Like Stu I think the piece is put together. If you can post better photos I will be able to translate. Already done with half :-)

Hope the new photos were clear enough for your purpose.
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Woops.

Says on the left side "Ali Ibn Suwayed" (owner name)

Says on the right side "Malbous al Afya *****" (could not read the last word but the first two are common and means a wish for the wearer to have good health)
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Old 9th April 2016, 03:39 PM   #7
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Woops.

Says on the left side "Ali Ibn Suwayed" (owner name)

Says on the right side "Malbous al Afya *****" (could not read the last word but the first two are common and means a wish for the wearer to have good health)
Many thanks for the translation it is most appreciated. Is the name of the owner a common one in Yemen or Oman Regards
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