Tulwar, help with dating and translation

GePi · 31st March 2016, 07:44 PM

Thanks for the reply ariel, 19th century was my uneducated guess as well.

The fitting (?) of the resin seemed a bit crude to me too, but I don't have a lot of experience with this kind of hilt construction.

As for the clean part under the languets, I did not mention it, but Matt described the blade as completely black when he received it, and he has done quite a bit of cleaning. As you can see in the attached pictures, on the other side of the sword the rust also covers the area under the languet.

Cheers

Gernot

Jens Nordlunde · 1st April 2016, 01:23 PM

GePi,

Welcome to the forum. I think I have some news for you.

A good friend of mine who lives in Kanartaka in India has translated the text on the back of the blade. Here is his answer.

It says: Malik Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Talpur which translates as "The Owner Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Tal Pur" So the blade is from Talpur! The writing is in Urdu.

Jens Nordlunde · 1st April 2016, 01:28 PM

Here is a link to another inscription.

http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...on-translation

Ok I go with Ariel, the adhesive is far too much in compare to other tulwars, and more than need to be, so it it is likely that this is a newly marriage.
Although the text says Talpur, the hilt is not Talpur. Other hilt types could have been used in Sindh - but it is not typical.

GePi · 2nd April 2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

GePi,

Welcome to the forum. I think I have some news for you.

A good friend of mine who lives in Kanartaka in India has translated the text on the back of the blade. Here is his answer.

It says: Malik Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Talpur which translates as "The Owner Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Tal Pur" So the blade is from Talpur! The writing is in Urdu.

Wow, that's great. Thanks a lot. It seems, I have some reading up to do now.

Cheers

31st March 2016, 07:44 PM	#1
GePi Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 95	Thanks for the reply ariel, 19th century was my uneducated guess as well. The fitting (?) of the resin seemed a bit crude to me too, but I don't have a lot of experience with this kind of hilt construction. As for the clean part under the languets, I did not mention it, but Matt described the blade as completely black when he received it, and he has done quite a bit of cleaning. As you can see in the attached pictures, on the other side of the sword the rust also covers the area under the languet. Cheers Gernot Attached Images

1st April 2016, 01:23 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	GePi, Welcome to the forum. I think I have some news for you. A good friend of mine who lives in Kanartaka in India has translated the text on the back of the blade. Here is his answer. It says: Malik Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Talpur which translates as "The Owner Sarkar Ahmad Yaar Khan Tal Pur" So the blade is from Talpur! The writing is in Urdu. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 1st April 2016 at 09:44 PM.

1st April 2016, 01:28 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Here is a link to another inscription. http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...on-translation Ok I go with Ariel, the adhesive is far too much in compare to other tulwars, and more than need to be, so it it is likely that this is a newly marriage. Although the text says Talpur, the hilt is not Talpur. Other hilt types could have been used in Sindh - but it is not typical. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 1st April 2016 at 09:50 PM.