Yatagan help

[Kubur]

Hi Guys,
I agree for the yatagan but the scabbard is very interesting.
The flowers in frise are common to Ottoman Turkish scabbards.
But the birds, animals and inscriptions look Persian to me.
Is it possible that someone can translate these inscriptions?
It could be a cross cultural object...
Kubur

[Saracen]

Обычно на ятаганах этого типа в надписи имена семи отроков эфесских.

Usually this type of yatagan in writing the names of the seven youths of Ephesus.

[estcrh]

Here is another similar "Greek" yatagan.

[Kubur]

Hi,
Here the same kind of scabbard
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2595
maybe i was wrong your scabbard is Turkish and not Persian...
Sorry!!
Best,
Kubur

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,
Here the same kind of scabbard
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2595
maybe i was wrong your scabbard is Turkish and not Persian...
Sorry!!
Best,
Kubur

i'm sorry I wanted to say SYRIAN (not Turkish)
but the yataghan is Greek of course

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Kubur

i'm sorry I wanted to say SYRIAN (not Turkish)
but the yataghan is Greek of course

Kuber, thanks for digging this up. The style of the pala scabbard from the link you posted and the yatagan scabbard being discussed are very similar, on the pictures posted below you will notice the scabbard tip with has a small bridge to protect the chape. Both the pala and yatagan chapes have this feature as well as another pala which is posted below as well. So were Syrian artists actively doing this type of work on Ottoman sword scabbards without being credited for it?

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by estcrh

you will notice the scabbard tip with has a small bridge to protect the chape. Both the pala and yatagan chapes have this feature as well as another pala which is posted below as well.

This feature is common to most of the Turkish scabbards, I have the same on an Ottoman/ Turkish scabbard.

Originally Posted by estcrh

So were Syrian artists actively doing this type of work on Ottoman sword scabbards without being credited for it?

I don't know the style is very close to some Qajar works, but its clearly something from the East, Ottoman Syrian maybe... There is another example in the very bad book "Antique swords and daggers" (only useful for photographs).

A last point, finally I do not think that your yatagan is Greek. Please, look at Elgood, the Greek style is very particular. Your yatagan should be Balkans or even Turkish, but not Greek.