Long Keris

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2016, 01:31 AM

Yes David, I agree that Giovanni was probably talking about KP's, or maybe even more generally, keris from the same geographic area, however, although you and I and other very experienced people may understand this, there are many people who read this Forum who are not particularly well experienced, and without specific reference a general statement such as Giovanni's, could mislead them.

Moreover, although we are accustomed to seeing KP's without pamor, older examples with very simple pamor do exist. I currently own several, and have had others in the past.

What is true is this:- if the pamor in a KP is complex, you can bet on it that it is post 1980.

GIO · 25th March 2016, 11:27 AM

Hi Alan and David,
yes, I was referring to Panjang type of keris. Sorry for not having well specified that. Moreover I only expessed an opinion since in this part of the world we do not have many chances to examine many specimens and form a valid experience. Interesting what Alan says about old Panjang kerises with pamor. The information adds to our knowledge and demonstrates how complex the world of keris is.

Sajen · 25th March 2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GIO

Interesting what Alan says about old Panjang kerises with pamor. The information adds to our knowledge and demonstrates how complex the world of keris is.

Hello GIO,

in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=panjang you can see my clearly antique keris panjang with pamor blade.

Regards,
Detlef

GIO · 26th March 2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello GIO,

in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=panjang you can see my clearly antique keris panjang with pamor blade.

Regards,
Detlef

Hi Detlef,
Many thanks for showing and compliments for your fine kerises.
Gio

25th March 2016, 01:31 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,063	Yes David, I agree that Giovanni was probably talking about KP's, or maybe even more generally, keris from the same geographic area, however, although you and I and other very experienced people may understand this, there are many people who read this Forum who are not particularly well experienced, and without specific reference a general statement such as Giovanni's, could mislead them. Moreover, although we are accustomed to seeing KP's without pamor, older examples with very simple pamor do exist. I currently own several, and have had others in the past. What is true is this:- if the pamor in a KP is complex, you can bet on it that it is post 1980.

25th March 2016, 11:27 AM	#2
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 330	Hi Alan and David, yes, I was referring to Panjang type of keris. Sorry for not having well specified that. Moreover I only expessed an opinion since in this part of the world we do not have many chances to examine many specimens and form a valid experience. Interesting what Alan says about old Panjang kerises with pamor. The information adds to our knowledge and demonstrates how complex the world of keris is.