historically important helmet of Gilbert von Saint Hilaire resurfaced

Cerjak · 23rd March 2016, 07:13 PM

Same three circles also occur on a Nuremberg Morion dated to ca. 1580 in the Wallace Collection (A 115, Mann, Vol. 1 , p. 117 and marks in Vol. 2, p. 686)

Cerjak · 16th May 2017, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

Same three circles also occur on a Nuremberg Morion dated to ca. 1580 in the Wallace Collection (A 115, Mann, Vol. 1 , p. 117 and marks in Vol. 2, p. 686)

Katalog Der K. Und K. Heeres-Museums

Cerjak · 22nd September 2019, 01:44 PM

It took a lot of time but finally I found the catalog of this sale !

M ELEY · 22nd September 2019, 08:42 PM

Congratulations again, Jean-Luc, on finding the provenance on this amazing piece! One could only be so lucky!

Cerjak · 24th September 2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Congratulations again, Jean-Luc, on finding the provenance on this amazing piece! One could only be so lucky!

Thank you very much for you comment
the research is not yet completed I still have to find the sales catalogue of Charassé, rue Bonaparte, Paris, circa 1889 as well a painting of this noble man if exists.

AHorsa · 25th September 2019, 12:31 PM

I just read the catalogue description and I wonder what the state of research is meanwhile. On page 80 of the KuK catalogue (#11) the author (seems to) say in the footnote that the black and white armour in the Heeresmuseum is unlikely to be the one of Gilbert. Sadly a part of the footnote is missing (might be continued at page 81). If one want me to I can translate the whole footnote.
Is there any clarification or other findings on this?

Best
Andreas

Cerjak · 26th September 2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AHorsa

I just read the catalogue description and I wonder what the state of research is meanwhile. On page 80 of the KuK catalogue (#11) the author (seems to) say in the footnote that the black and white armour in the Heeresmuseum is unlikely to be the one of Gilbert. Sadly a part of the footnote is missing (might be continued at page 81). If one want me to I can translate the whole footnote.
Is there any clarification or other findings on this?

Best
Andreas

Dear andreas
The book could be downloaded here :
https://ia800703.us.archive.org/14/i...00erbegoog.pdf
of course the translation would be highly appreciated.
best

Jean-Luc

Reventlov · 23rd September 2019, 06:50 PM

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It took a lot of time but finally I found the catalog of this sale !

Well done!

PS. Check your email, I think you missed my last reply...

22nd September 2019, 01:44 PM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	F. Muller & Co., Amsterdam, 26 April 1911 It took a lot of time but finally I found the catalog of this sale ! Attached Images

23rd March 2016, 07:13 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Same three circles also occur on a Nuremberg Morion dated to ca. 1580 in the Wallace Collection (A 115, Mann, Vol. 1 , p. 117 and marks in Vol. 2, p. 686) Attached Images

22nd September 2019, 08:42 PM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,196	Congratulations again, Jean-Luc, on finding the provenance on this amazing piece! One could only be so lucky!

25th September 2019, 12:31 PM	#6
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	I just read the catalogue description and I wonder what the state of research is meanwhile. On page 80 of the KuK catalogue (#11) the author (seems to) say in the footnote that the black and white armour in the Heeresmuseum is unlikely to be the one of Gilbert. Sadly a part of the footnote is missing (might be continued at page 81). If one want me to I can translate the whole footnote. Is there any clarification or other findings on this? Best Andreas