Some Queen-Anne pistols

Fernando K · 3rd March 2016, 12:00 AM

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M ELEY · 3rd March 2016, 02:16 AM

Yes, that is the one Jim pointed out to be a tinder lighter. I've seen these types to be used with linstocks and, I'm assuming, to ignite gaslight posts?

What a spectacular selection of Queen Anne 'type (!)' pistols. The style of these were so appreciated that the form continued well past the days of Queen Anne. I would also point out that they were popular with sea captains as well. Multi-barreled guns were great for discouraging mutinies and the small pocket variety were carried in the captain's 'great pockets' while in port to equally discourage street robbers (sea men often came into port after being paid to spend their wealth. Likewise, thieves in the alleys and cheats at the game tables were always waiting!).

Jim McDougall · 3rd March 2016, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Yes, that is the one Jim pointed out to be a tinder lighter. I've seen these types to be used with linstocks and, I'm assuming, to ignite gaslight posts?

What a spectacular selection of Queen Anne 'type (!)' pistols. The style of these were so appreciated that the form continued well past the days of Queen Anne. I would also point out that they were popular with sea captains as well. Multi-barreled guns were great for discouraging mutinies and the small pocket variety were carried in the captain's 'great pockets' while in port to equally discourage street robbers (sea men often came into port after being paid to spend their wealth. Likewise, thieves in the alleys and cheats at the game tables were always waiting!).

Excellent perspective and context Mark!!!! Thank you.
These words really put dimension in seeing the fantastic intrigue associated with these pistols, and amazing to see these examples.

Fernando K, sorry about the confusion, my misunderstanding and your words are clear.

corrado26 · 3rd March 2016, 10:31 AM

Ok, now I understood but you will agree that it is impossible to post explanations to every single foto. If there are more questions I' am prepared to post an apppriate answer.

The foto 2 in post#9 shows a British powdertester, no tinderlighter, accessories and some British bulletmolds, just things that have been necessary for loading and shooting with that kind of pistols.
corrado26

NeilUK · 3rd March 2016, 05:10 PM

What a fabulous collection! I have a few Queen Anne pistols myself, both side-lock and box-lock, but nothing like this. I would have commented before but I have been away and only just now seen this thread. I would love to see the exhibition - how about bringing it over to Scotland?
Congratulations, Corrado.
Neil

Jim McDougall · 3rd March 2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

Ok, now I understood but you will agree that it is impossible to post explanations to every single foto. If there are more questions I' am prepared to post an apppriate answer.

The foto 2 in post#9 shows a British powdertester, no tinderlighter, accessories and some British bulletmolds, just things that have been necessary for loading and shooting with that kind of pistols.
corrado26

Well understood Corrado!!! That is a LOT of pictures

and I cannot resist thanking you again for sharing such great examples here.

Thank you for pointing out this is a powder tester, which of course makes much more sense given the context here. Its great to see all these accessories along with these weapons.

corrado26 · 4th March 2016, 01:59 PM

Just coming back to the early Queen-Anne pistols, produced around the years 1701 and 1714and how one can recognize them: First there are the names of the gunsmiths that have been working in those years. Second there is a specific detail, that is almost a safe reference to an early production. This is the trigger guard which is made with a fore-end and a backstrap. Later pistols used to have a far smaller trigger guard without fore end and backstrap - see the fotos.
The first pistol is made by George HALFHIDE, London ca. 1695-1710
The second pistol is made by James BARBAR, LOndon 1740-1780
The third pistol is made by David Wynn, London, 1680-1725. It is a rare item because it has a ramrod and its cannot be unscrewed. They called it at that time "night pistol" as it was loaded not with a ball but with buckshot, by night a better help against gangsters

corrado26

fernando · 4th March 2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

... It is a rare item because it has a ramrod and its cannot be unscrewed. They called it at that time "night pistol" as it was loaded not with a ball but with buckshot, by night a better help against gangsters ...

So:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=queen+anne

3rd March 2016, 12:00 AM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Pick Attached Images

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corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	Just coming back to the early Queen-Anne pistols, produced around the years 1701 and 1714and how one can recognize them: First there are the names of the gunsmiths that have been working in those years. Second there is a specific detail, that is almost a safe reference to an early production. This is the trigger guard which is made with a fore-end and a backstrap. Later pistols used to have a far smaller trigger guard without fore end and backstrap - see the fotos. The first pistol is made by George HALFHIDE, London ca. 1695-1710 The second pistol is made by James BARBAR, LOndon 1740-1780 The third pistol is made by David Wynn, London, 1680-1725. It is a rare item because it has a ramrod and its cannot be unscrewed. They called it at that time "night pistol" as it was loaded not with a ball but with buckshot, by night a better help against gangsters corrado26 Attached Images

3rd March 2016, 02:16 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Yes, that is the one Jim pointed out to be a tinder lighter. I've seen these types to be used with linstocks and, I'm assuming, to ignite gaslight posts? What a spectacular selection of Queen Anne 'type (!)' pistols. The style of these were so appreciated that the form continued well past the days of Queen Anne. I would also point out that they were popular with sea captains as well. Multi-barreled guns were great for discouraging mutinies and the small pocket variety were carried in the captain's 'great pockets' while in port to equally discourage street robbers (sea men often came into port after being paid to spend their wealth. Likewise, thieves in the alleys and cheats at the game tables were always waiting!).

3rd March 2016, 10:31 AM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	Ok, now I understood but you will agree that it is impossible to post explanations to every single foto. If there are more questions I' am prepared to post an apppriate answer. The foto 2 in post#9 shows a British powdertester, no tinderlighter, accessories and some British bulletmolds, just things that have been necessary for loading and shooting with that kind of pistols. corrado26

3rd March 2016, 05:10 PM	#5
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 126	What a fabulous collection! I have a few Queen Anne pistols myself, both side-lock and box-lock, but nothing like this. I would have commented before but I have been away and only just now seen this thread. I would love to see the exhibition - how about bringing it over to Scotland? Congratulations, Corrado. Neil