Keris Sajen - original vs. fakes

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In fact, just about anything can be a talisman, if the holder of that talisman has full belief in it. So you get the situation where a dukun (shaman) will go to the market a buy the crappiest little piece of junk he can get cheap, if he's genuine he will call the powers into it, if he's not, he'll convince his client that he has called the powers into it, but either way that little keris-like object will finish up as somebody's treasured talisman.
Talismans are all about belief.

Alan, i believe what you are saying here is pretty much in line with what i have just said in my last post. I do understand where you are coming from with the word "tourist", however i am using the term more to describe items that find their way into export and are not necessarily conceived for indigenous use. I realize that you don't spend quite as much time on eBay as some of us do, but while the actual tourist trade may indeed be down in Jawa you will find that these type of items are virtually flooding the keris pages on eBay.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yes David, I am pretty much endorsing your remarks.

As for "tourist", well I guess we can have ebay tourists as well as real ones, and you're right I gave ebay cruising away years ago, for me its simply a waste of time for keris & etc --- but I do buy other stuff from ebay, just don't waste my time on keris krusin'.

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

As for "tourist", well I guess we can have ebay tourists as well as real ones, and you're right I gave ebay cruising away years ago, for me its simply a waste of time for keris & etc --- but I do buy other stuff from ebay, just don't waste my time on keris krusin'.

Well Alan, given what i suspect resides in your personal collection i would image there would be much reason for you to spend much time cruising there. However, some of us who are apt from time to time to buy ourselves a lottery ticket do sometimes entertain ourselves with the notion that we might find something sleeping there. Actually i would say that it pays off far more frequently than the lottery...which, i know, isn't saying much...